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Old Posted Dec 27, 2023, 4:29 PM
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I see in the TJ that Moncton/Dieppe/Riverview's building permit total came in at just over 500 million. Any idea what the totals are for the greater Saint John and Fredericton areas?
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Old Posted Dec 28, 2023, 4:53 PM
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Current status of JDI’s $150,000,000 Environmental Treatment Facility

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Old Posted Dec 28, 2023, 5:20 PM
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Can’t wait for it to be assessed at $300,000


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Old Posted Dec 29, 2023, 2:56 PM
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New Brunswick revokes licence for AIM's Saint John scrapyard after fire
Decision follows damning report into Sept. 14 fire that sent toxic cloud of smoke over city
Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Dec 29, 2023 10:44 AM AST | Last Updated: 10 minutes agohttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/aim-saint-john-licence-revoked-1.7070902

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Saint John.

Maybe we can get Kris Austin to do the same for their Moncton facility too.......
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Old Posted Dec 29, 2023, 2:57 PM
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Old Posted Dec 29, 2023, 3:36 PM
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Sounds like the province went about this the right way to survive any judicial review too. Task force report, giving AIM time to respond, taking several days to evaluate that response etc......all even handed and deliberate.
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Old Posted Dec 29, 2023, 5:48 PM
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What does this really mean though? Will they move out? Who is responsible for clearing the site? Will DP world take it over?
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Old Posted Dec 29, 2023, 6:05 PM
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Moving Lancaster to Likely PC and Harbour to Leans PC.

Good riddance. Big winners here are Estabrooks and Higgs (and the entirety of the Lower West/Uptown of course).
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Old Posted Dec 29, 2023, 9:22 PM
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New Brunswick revokes licence for AIM's Saint John scrapyard after fire
Decision follows damning report into Sept. 14 fire that sent toxic cloud of smoke over city
Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Dec 29, 2023 10:44 AM AST | Last Updated: 10 minutes agohttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/aim-saint-john-licence-revoked-1.7070902

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Saint John.

Maybe we can get Kris Austin to do the same for their Moncton facility too.......
So if SJ had the Ospray spraying millions of gallons on fire and west side water reserves quickly being depleted, how is Moncton going to tackle a fire involving batteries with Turtle Creek water capacity? Should be shut down before we learn the answer. Imagine toxic smoke billowing over 200,000 people for 4 days or more ! It’s not far fetched either, Moncton AIM ramping up more and more.
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Old Posted Dec 29, 2023, 9:25 PM
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What does this really mean though? Will they move out? Who is responsible for clearing the site? Will DP world take it over?
Great questions. Unfortunately I feel AIM will fight this in the courts and tie up the site for years. The port is demanding the site be cleaned of toxins. Who has the authority to tear down the building. It’s a complicated legal rat’s nest. We still have no info on lease termination, or will they leave voluntarily?
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Old Posted Dec 30, 2023, 3:33 AM
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Great questions. Unfortunately I feel AIM will fight this in the courts and tie up the site for years. The port is demanding the site be cleaned of toxins. Who has the authority to tear down the building. It’s a complicated legal rat’s nest. We still have no info on lease termination, or will they leave voluntarily?
It was said in the statement that there is no appeal here....only judicial review. o.o
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Old Posted Dec 30, 2023, 1:58 PM
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Great questions. Unfortunately I feel AIM will fight this in the courts and tie up the site for years. The port is demanding the site be cleaned of toxins. Who has the authority to tear down the building. It’s a complicated legal rat’s nest. We still have no info on lease termination, or will they leave voluntarily?
Not in the know, but here's my layman's take.

I presume AIM will want to keep their shredder and associated machines, so they'll dismantle it and move it out by rail or truck. AFAIK it suffered no damage. Their small office building southwest of the tracks is also fine. No idea what the port will do with it- it doesn't seem to be in the way. There's really not that much infrastructure there.

Lease termination probably won't come until after judicial review. Taxpayers (AKA the feds AKA Albertans) will likely eat the bill. Presumably the Port, DP World, the feds, and hopefully the province/city, will bill them or sue them. A class action lawsuit should be filed too. There's got to be a competent lawyer around here who'd take it on.

The Moncton and Rothesay Avenue yards will probably continue to operate. They predated the waterfront shredder and are just collection points. Risk of catastrophic fire and explosion are quite low there. Saint John generates a lot of scrap and it's in nobody's interest to send it to the dump. I forget whether it was AllAtlantic, CBC, or the TJ, but one of them interviewed a few independent scrapyard operators, and they're not thrilled about the incoming heavy-handed regulation when they've done nothing wrong and aren't particularly risky. Whether it'll be under the AIM name... who can say.

Lastly-- would Shediac (the new lords of Scoudouc) or Belledune (or Sydney) even WANT this? Does the port even want the scrap loaded onto ships here? Or does the whole operation vanish?

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Old Posted Jan 1, 2024, 6:17 PM
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New Commercial Development - Iona St. Rothesay

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Old Posted Jan 1, 2024, 6:19 PM
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New apartment construction - Dobbin St in Rothesay by AE McKay builders

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Old Posted Jan 1, 2024, 8:48 PM
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Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t MacKay the one who took 5 years to build the apartment up on Rothesay rd by the Elementary school? The name of the place doesn’t come to mind. I think he also had to sell it off incomplete. Hope he has a better go of it this time!!
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Old Posted Jan 1, 2024, 10:01 PM
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Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t MacKay the one who took 5 years to build the apartment up on Rothesay rd by the Elementary school? The name of the place doesn’t come to mind. I think he also had to sell it off incomplete. Hope he has a better go of it this time!!
Correct if you mean Central Park Condos, and ScotiaBank site north end and Old Hampton Hwy. Family member bought a condo when completed in the first building and bought from AE McKay, so maybe second building they sold although I have never heard this before.
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Old Posted Jan 1, 2024, 10:46 PM
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Correct if you mean Central Park Condos, and ScotiaBank site north end and Old Hampton Hwy. Family member bought a condo when completed in the first building and bought from AE McKay, so maybe second building they sold although I have never heard this before.
I’m talking about Valley Ranch by Quispamsis Elementary School. It took a crazy long time for them to compete.
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Old Posted Jan 1, 2024, 11:38 PM
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I’m talking about Valley Ranch by Quispamsis Elementary School. It took a crazy long time for them to compete.
They never owned it, they were just the contractor building it.
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2024, 8:33 PM
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Proposed public hearing date for 1 Bayard Drive set for March 4th. Conversion of former office building into a multi-unit residential building.
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2024, 11:03 PM
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Roundabout hints coming (PDF): https://pub-saintjohn.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=16591

The city outlined planned DTI investments by priority. The roundabouts stood out. The collective wisdom here was correct, it looks like.

SHORT TERM: Loch Lomond/Airport Arterial and Sandy Point/Foster Thurston
MEDIUM: Rothesay Road/Ashburn Lake
LONG: Simms Corner and Manawagonish/Gault/Ocean Westway
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