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Old Posted Dec 3, 2023, 9:50 PM
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Well, I dunno. If you look at Barrington you have the Roy, a new build meant to honor the old decrepit original which I’m sure would have turned out much differently otherwise, the old Zellers/Discovery building, the Green Lantern, the Tramway, and the perpetual NFB project. The ones lost were typical old individual buildings that had been stitched together over the years like the SGR projects at Queen St., which would have been extremely difficult to do much with. But even with other examples of that like the old McKelvie’s and surrounding buildings, what replaced them was largely a homage to what was there, which likely introduced both compromises with the new structures and significant extra cost. The “glass is always empty” mentality is endemic locally but I think some pushback towards it is reasonable.
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Well, I dunno. If you look at Barrington you have the Roy, a new build meant to honor the old decrepit original which I’m sure would have turned out much differently otherwise, the old Zellers/Discovery building, the Green Lantern, the Tramway, and the perpetual NFB project.
The Roy would have turned out much better if they had kept the original facade, along the lines of the Green Lantern. As it is, the Barrington side looks more 'faux heritage' than anything else. Curiously, the Granville side is much more attractive, although that is the less prominent side of the building.
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Mixed Use & Commercial Building Permit - New Building - Submitted - 28 VIRIDIAN DR, DARTMOUTH - $17'100'000 - Dwelling - Multiple Units - Residential Use - 95 Units - 6 Floors - New construction of a multi unit residential building (95 Units).
Crane is being installed for this project.
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Old Posted Dec 11, 2023, 4:11 PM
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Lancaster Villas and 28 Viridian Drive.


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Brunswick Street Supportive Housing Project is now under construction next to Hope Cottage.


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Old Posted Dec 12, 2023, 7:49 PM
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This looks okay but somewhat worse than I had hoped from the elevation drawing. One issue which I guess maybe is due to accessibility concerns is that this building style is normally on a tall foundation and this version looks like it has sunk into the ground.
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We need more of these all over. Some on my street, please.
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Old Posted Dec 17, 2023, 12:53 AM
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THE FAIRWAY (3539 Joseph Howe Drive @ Scot Street)


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I'm already getting a cool 'urban canyon' feel when driving along Joe Howe and the buildings aren't even (fully) built.
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Noticed what looks like land prep going on at Oxford/Bayers, where a new Acadian School (?) is supposed to be built.

Not sure if I correct in my assessment. Just noticed while passing through.
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A crane is being installed today at the development next to Superstore on Joe Howe.
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When did this development change from 4 storey 44 unit to 6 storey 95 unit

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Mixed Use & Commercial Building Permit - New Building - Submitted - 28 VIRIDIAN DR, DARTMOUTH - $17'100'000 - Dwelling - Multiple Units - Residential Use - 95 Units - 6 Floors - New construction of a multi unit residential building (95 Units).
I am trying to find somewhere in HRM meeting minutes this development was approved for a change from 4 storey 44 unit to 6 storey 95 unit development. it looks like it was approved with a height limit of 14 meters as per council minutes and Sam Austin mailout https://samaustin.ca/e-news-may-2019/
i understand it may be condos instead of apartments. Crane has been in the air now for a week. is there newer or different info on this build.
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I am trying to find somewhere in HRM meeting minutes this development was approved for a change from 4 storey 44 unit to 6 storey 95 unit development. it looks like it was approved with a height limit of 14 meters as per council minutes and Sam Austin mailout https://samaustin.ca/e-news-may-2019/
i understand it may be condos instead of apartments. Crane has been in the air now for a week. is there newer or different info on this build.
Bit of a side note, but why is virtually every single amendment to the Centre Plan proposed by Sam Austin a reduction in permissible height or a downzoning?

It's an impressive list of recommended amendments, and almost every single one is a reduction in allowable height or the removal of a corridor or higher-order residential zone.
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I am trying to find somewhere in HRM meeting minutes this development was approved for a change from 4 storey 44 unit to 6 storey 95 unit development. it looks like it was approved with a height limit of 14 meters as per council minutes and Sam Austin mailout https://samaustin.ca/e-news-may-2019/
i understand it may be condos instead of apartments. Crane has been in the air now for a week. is there newer or different info on this build.
From what I can tell it was just a side effect of the Centre Plan passing. Same as a few other projects around the urban core that have been resized according to their new zoning.

The old zoning was Dartmouth R-3 which was a restrictive zone with a requirement for a development agreement for multi-unit buildings. The approved development agreement was signed back in 2007 so by the time Centre Plan came around it was likely expired and would of had to go back to community council for a time extension. Centre Plan put neighbourhoods as either established (ER-1/2/3), corridor, or centres. Lancaster Ridge was given ER-2 zoning in it's developed areas. The remaining area including 28 Viridian Drive was zoned High-Order Residential since this was the closest to the development rights already given to the area. HOR-1 zoning allows for six floors.
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A lot of building permits were submitted this week. I've put some notes in individual threads. If I missed any feel free to copy from my blog.

- Needs Convenience at Chebucto & Windsor will be demolished. No idea what the plans are for this site.

- New 6-storey residential building for 6230 QUINPOOL ROAD to infill a parking lot. This is between The Other Bean and Pleasures N' Treasures.

- New 4-storey residential building for 344 PRINCE ALBERT ROAD, DARTMOUTH. This is at the very northern end behind Superstore.
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- Needs Convenience at Chebucto & Windsor will be demolished. No idea what the plans are for this site.
Interesting. I used to live in this area and always wondered if this lot could be repurposed to straighten out that intersection.
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What are the odds a wrong decision could be made here?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/ha...d=d9d6a34553144f4e9e2ca3e80b2c812f&ei=16
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There's not much information on the costs/benefits of different courses of action.

I wonder if this group can financially support the maintenance through some sort of crowdfunding?
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There's not much information on the costs/benefits of different courses of action.

I wonder if this group can financially support the maintenance through some sort of crowdfunding?
One of the major points of the story is that both facilities (Centennial Pool and a new one) are needed. It's been apparent for many years that the demand exists for two such buildings, particularly with the reduced availability of the Dalplex pool.

One of the great lost opportunities in the ongoing saga of municipal blunders (another obvious one being building the Macdonald bridge with only two lanes) was to make the Canada Games Centre pool 50m (standard competition length) long when it was built, instead of 25m; the incremental cost difference would have been negligible in the overall context of the project. Had that been done, it would have been much easier to eventually dispose of the aging Centennial while adding another new pool down the road - which is the decision point where we are now, more than a decade later.

Unfortunately, a municipal swimming pool is, economically speaking, probably not the most efficient use of such valuable real estate. But there's no chance Halifax would build two new 50m pools, so we're left with this dilemma.
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One of the great lost opportunities in the ongoing saga of municipal blunders (another obvious one being building the Macdonald bridge with only two lanes) was to make the Canada Games Centre pool 50m (standard competition length) long when it was built, instead of 25m; the incremental cost difference would have been negligible in the overall context of the project.
They quote Waye Mason saying there is no room on the peninsula but there's lots of space around the Commons. Much of it has been used badly over the years. In theory there has been planning but how great was the planning if the aging pool next door was not considered? It's really obvious that it's a potential location for civic amenities and the land should be used sparingly so more amenities can fit in.

I wonder about putting some buildings around the Citadel too, but with a green roof. You could build a pool on the Garrison Grounds parking lot for example and add a usable roof open to the public, perhaps used as an open-air event space that is superior to the Garrison Grounds.

The old library is still sitting empty.

FWIW it seems to me like HRM always has a million different quasi-priorities (if you have 100 priorities you have 0) and kicks the can down the road on many projects, often with false economies, instead of just investing properly to fix something on a 50 year or longer timeframe. You always need to keep the basic services going but it doesn't hurt to have 1 main priority and commit to building something good; in the long run I think that strategy often creates better results.
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