Wharncliffe Rd. Transformation - CN Tracks - Page 12

Djeffery · #**221** Posted **Jan 24, 2022, 11:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by Pimpmasterdac

Unfortunately because Wharncliffe project will take 2 years to complete, while the Victoria Rideout bridge will be done in 1, it makes sense getting pushed back. Had all the other issues with Stanley St expropriation been wrapped up in a timely manner, project might have been done by now.

I know the time difference between the 2, but is Ridout in danger of falling into the river anytime soon? 2 lanes of NB Wharncliffe would be a lot better to have while Ridout is closed. It backs up now pretty good, it's only going to be worse with Ridout closed and push more on to Wortley.

Pimpmasterdac · #**222** Posted **Jan 25, 2022, 5:26 AM**

The entire Wharncliffe/Horton intersection will be shut down for 2 years because of the underpass and significant grading that will happened. While Ridout isn't a dilapidated —, it's affects won't be as long or as severe as Wharncliffe/Horton will affect both north-south and east-west traffic at a critical bottleneck. Again hindsight being 20/20 if expropriation had gone like clockwork, rather than the useless delays and stalls of the project has had, it would've been done over this covid stretch.

Djeffery · #**223** Posted **Jan 25, 2022, 11:28 AM**

All the more reason to get Wharncliffe done first and up to speed while we are still in a Covid doldrum. As time goes on, more and more people will be returning to offices, which will end up timing with Wharncliffe/Horton being closed for more of that if we delay it. I would rather Ridout be closed for a year 2 years from now when traffic will be much busier than Wharncliffe be closed at that time.

The end result of Ridout being done is it still won't be any better prepared than it is today to handle Wharncliffe traffic while Wharncliffe is closed. But Wharncliffe being done first makes it much better to handle any incremental Ridout traffic, especially northbound.

haljackey · #**224** Posted **Jan 25, 2022, 3:53 PM**

Old lady's house is still there right? Maybe she will get another year to enjoy her garden.

South of Horton, Wharnclffe looks so desolate now that the demolition is done. I assume it will remain clear until the project is complete due to it being a staging/storage area for construction vehicles and components.

The question is why did no one see this coming? We should have started this project last year or even 2020 so it didn't conflict with the Ridout bridge replacement. Now this choke point remain for another 2 years.

Still I am hopeful whatever work can be done short of full construction can get done in the next couple years. Utility line relocation, finishing demolition work (including old lady's house), etc.

Djeffery · #**225** Posted **Jan 25, 2022, 11:42 PM**

The house is still there but she has been in her new house for the last 18 months or so. The city still has some hoops to jump through before they have final approval to knock down the house.

tyeman200 · #**226** Posted **Feb 20, 2022, 11:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Djeffery

The house is still there but she has been in her new house for the last 18 months or so. The city still has some hoops to jump through before they have final approval to knock down the house.

This is what happens when people try to fight progress

7 years too long, this all should of been done a long time ago and for far cheaper.

jammer139 · #**227** Posted **Mar 23, 2022, 10:35 PM**

This future project is likely to see massive cost increase as well given the shocking news with the Adelaide St CP underpass $29M jump.

haljackey · #**228** Posted **Mar 24, 2022, 12:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by jammer139

This future project is likely to see massive cost increase as well given the shocking news with the Adelaide St CP underpass $29M jump.

I sure hope not. Unlike Adelaide they don't need to dig an entirely new underpass- and can work with what's there now.

Also hopefully by the time this starts the supply chain issues will be mostly fixed... but no one can predict the future.

tyeman200 · #**229** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 10:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by haljackey

I sure hope not. Unlike Adelaide they don't need to dig an entirely new underpass- and can work with what's there now.

Also hopefully by the time this starts the supply chain issues will be mostly fixed... but no one can predict the future.

Don't they need to dig to expand the underpass a bit? As it is right now it cannot fit 5 lanes of traffic

Djeffery · #**230** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 10:54 PM**

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Don't they need to dig to expand the underpass a bit? As it is right now it cannot fit 5 lanes of traffic

Yes, and they are also lowering Stanley (and maybe Horton, I'm not sure) by several feet. Won't be as much digging as Adelaide, but it's still a significant amount of work that will no doubt go higher than whatever amount the city planned on a few years ago.

CanadianTalk · #**231** Posted **Nov 11, 2022, 5:12 PM**

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Construction on this project has been deferred (yet, once again lol) to 2023, according to the project page. It was originally scheduled to start in 2021, then pushed back to 2022, and now pushed back again.
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Unfortunately, it looks like this will be deferred again for the millionth time to 2024 according to the same project page.

jammer139 · #**232** Posted **Dec 23, 2023, 2:46 PM**

The sounds of crickets has been deafening on the status of this project. The old house is still standing the entire 2023 year - why? Project page hasn't seen a meaningful update in 2023. Still saying 2024 start date.

https://london.ca/projects/wharncliffe-road-south-improvements

Djeffery · #**233** Posted **Dec 23, 2023, 5:00 PM**

We may see the house gone in 2024, but I doubt anything else happens due to the delay with Ridout Street.

Spoofy · #**234** Posted **Dec 23, 2023, 6:51 PM**

Yeah I remember reading somewhere that the original timelines had the CN underpass construction happening before the Ridout Bridge, but because the old lady on the corner dragged out for so long they had to flip the two projects around so now the underpass has to wait for the bridge to be completed. That way only the timeline for the underpass was delayed while the bridge was kept on its original timeline.

Djeffery · #**235** Posted **Dec 24, 2023, 12:32 AM**

I also haven't heard if the city actually has approval to remove the house yet.

ohhimark · #**236** Posted **Dec 29, 2023, 2:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by Djeffery

I also haven't heard if the city actually has approval to remove the house yet.

Wonder what's holding it up? Also surprised the house isn't boarded up or fenced off.

Djeffery · #**237** Posted **Dec 29, 2023, 4:10 AM**

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Wonder what's holding it up? Also surprised the house isn't boarded up or fenced off.

It's a heritage property, so they have to go through a bunch of red tape to over ride that. Not sure what the status is of that. They had originally planned to move the house, which probably required a different amount of massive paperwork than demolition now requires. Yes, I am surprised it hasn't been boarded up as well. Also surprised it doesn't appear to be taken over by homeless or destroyed by vandals.

jammer139 · #**238** Posted **Jan 2, 2024, 5:50 PM**

Who would have thought the costs are going up for the replacement underpass?

https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/londons-city-budget-four-below-the-radar-funding-requests

MrSlippery519 · #**239** Posted **Jan 3, 2024, 4:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by jammer139

Who would have thought the costs are going up for the replacement underpass?

https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/londons-city-budget-four-below-the-radar-funding-requests

Shocking I tell you!

It will be a lot more than 3.1m more I would bet

CanadianTalk · #**240** Posted **Jan 9, 2024, 1:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by jammer139

The sounds of crickets has been deafening on the status of this project. The old house is still standing the entire 2023 year - why? Project page hasn't seen a meaningful update in 2023. Still saying 2024 start date.

https://london.ca/projects/wharncliffe-road-south-improvements

Project page was updated today and ...... wait for it ......

Construction has been deferred again, and the project will now start in 2025.

This is the third year in a row where I have updated this thread with a similar message lol...

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Originally Posted by CanadianTalk

Construction on this project has been deferred (yet, once again lol) to 2023, according to the project page. It was originally scheduled to start in 2021, then pushed back to 2022, and now pushed back again.

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Originally Posted by CanadianTalk

Unfortunately, it looks like this will be deferred again for the millionth time to 2024 according to the same project page.