Kìwekì Point (formerly Nepean Point) Redevelopment [NCC] - Page 18

ponyboycurtis · #**341** Posted **Nov 23, 2023, 11:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

Yup. Stage and public washrooms were ditched. Statues relocated from the plan.

Watching the video, there's the helix sculpture and the Three Watchmen (green totem poll) that, I hope, will make a return to the Point.

I for one.. hate public washrooms. Filled with derelicts and undesirables. We should all suffer in solidarity.

There are the (VERY RARE) public washrooms just on the other side of the soon to be bridge.

I did notice the other day they were barred shut despite having the lights on. Maybe they are seasonal? Naturally I just rocked a piss in an adjacent bush like a true gentleman. I drink a lot. I need to pee sometimes, help me out here Ottawa.

J.OT13 · #**342** Posted **Nov 24, 2023, 1:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by ponyboycurtis

I for one.. hate public washrooms. Filled with derelicts and undesirables. We should all suffer in solidarity.

There are the (VERY RARE) public washrooms just on the other side of the soon to be bridge.

I did notice the other day they were barred shut despite having the lights on. Maybe they are seasonal? Naturally I just rocked a piss in an adjacent bush like a true gentleman. I drink a lot. I need to pee sometimes, help me out here Ottawa.

NCC is supposed to work with the NAG to provided access to their cafeteria washrooms instead. Of course, those would no doubt only be accessible when the Museum is open, if that.

Badyouken · #**343** Posted **Nov 24, 2023, 1:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by ponyboycurtis

I for one.. hate public washrooms. Filled with derelicts and undesirables. We should all suffer in solidarity.

There are the (VERY RARE) public washrooms just on the other side of the soon to be bridge.

I did notice the other day they were barred shut despite having the lights on. Maybe they are seasonal? Naturally I just rocked a piss in an adjacent bush like a true gentleman. I drink a lot. I need to pee sometimes, help me out here Ottawa.

I found Paris' public washrooms OK? There is a fee, which helps put at least some barrier to usage.

OTownandDown · #**344** Posted **Nov 24, 2023, 2:30 PM**

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I found Paris' public washrooms OK? There is a fee, which helps put at least some barrier to usage.

Ah yes, the fabled $450,000 self-cleaning units. I'm sure with inflation they're at $1.5M now.

Uhuniau · #**345** Posted **Nov 24, 2023, 3:26 PM**

I hate public washrooms, too, but I hate shitting behind bushes even more.

DTcrawler · #**346** Posted **Nov 24, 2023, 5:29 PM**

It's really not a hard concept to solve. Go to Europe and even in the oldest cities, walk down a crammed alleyway towards an inconspicuous "Toilet" sign and 9 times out of 10 you'll find a perfectly satisfactory, clean space to do your business, free of "undesirables". Of course, the catch is you usually pay 1-2 euros for entry but that's the whole reason it's possible.

movebyleap · #**347** Posted **Nov 25, 2023, 6:29 AM**

Ah! Of course the city cheaped out on the stage. No surprise there.

Public toilets these days are wonders of technology. We're aren't talking about Paris' public pissoirs of yore. Check out some of the the state of the art toilets in cities like Amsterdam, Basel, and many French and German cities (yes - even Paris now has functional, modern toilets). In fact, you don't even need to go that far. Montreal has installed a bunch of cute public toilets in the downtown core. They are clean, inconspicuous, and practical - especially for the hordes of tourists in the summer.

Of course Ottawa doesn't have tourists, so I guess toilets aren't a priority.

J.OT13 · #**348** Posted **Nov 25, 2023, 1:18 PM**

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Ah! Of course the city cheaped out on the stage. No surprise there.

In this case, if was the NCC. I'm just glad they didn't cheap out on the bridge. I just know that if this was a City project, they would have made the bridge straight (like they did with Flora) or eliminated it out right (Lansdowne).

Harley613 · #**349** Posted **Nov 25, 2023, 2:43 PM**

The whole thing looks cheap to me. The concrete and galvanized steel fence should have been stone and iron. The fence is atrocious. The concrete wasteland should be interlock and should cover half the ground. The stage and washrooms are a huge miss. Moving the statutes pissed me off, but I'm not going to comment on that.

I was hoping for something amazing, instead we got a UFO behind a prison fence.

rocketphish · #**350** Posted **Nov 29, 2023, 8:54 PM**

Controversial ‘scout’ statue gets new name, place of pride in NCC park
Kichi Zibi Innini once known as 'Anishinabe Scout' and Samuel de Champlain have both found new homes in Kìwekì Point Park

Randy Boswell, Ottawa Citizen
Published Nov 29, 2023 • Last updated 1 hour ago • 10 minute read

One of the most contentious artworks in Ottawa’s history — the Indigenous figure in bronze who infamously knelt for 75 years at the base of French explorer Samuel de Champlain’s towering statue — has finally found a place of pride at a spectacular new site overlooking the Ottawa River.

In late September, workers involved in the National Capital Commission’s ongoing, $6.7-million transformation of Kìwekì Point Park — formerly Nepean Point, the majestic bluff above the Ontario end of the Alexandra Bridge — used a small crane to lift the controversial figure once known as “Anishinabe Scout” into position at a breathtaking clifftop lookout.

It’s been a long and circuitous journey for “Kichi Zibi Innini”.

The Algonquin term for “Great River Man” was recently bestowed on this life-sized representation of a lean, muscly sentinel and master paddler. He is depicted crouched and alert, his bow and quiver of arrows at the ready and his gaze sharply fixed on some distant scene.

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Now Kichi Zibi Innini is back on its original promontory in a commanding position along the north-side perimeter of Kìwekì Point Park — with the Algonquin word “Kìwekì” especially apt since it conveys the notion of “returning to one’s homeland.” The Indigenous figure is located just steps away from the Champlain statue that once loomed imperiously above it.

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https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...-new-home-reunited-near-champlain-statue

zzptichka · #**351** Posted **Dec 4, 2023, 5:03 PM**

What's going on here?

bartlebooth · #**352** Posted **Dec 4, 2023, 5:37 PM**

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What's going on here?

My guess is that they’re going to surface the bridge and need to cover it to protect from the elements. Maybe it’ll be a concrete walkway?

OTownandDown · #**353** Posted **Dec 4, 2023, 5:58 PM**

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My guess is that they’re going to surface the bridge and need to cover it to protect from the elements. Maybe it’ll be a concrete walkway?

lol, that's putting government project schedule above all else, including quality and cost.

ponyboycurtis · #**354** Posted **Dec 4, 2023, 8:03 PM**

ahh...

That riveted/bolted section really stands out against the finned parts.

I'll have to go check it out in person but that is pretty visually disruptive.

I guess there is also another one to the far right of the frame and you can only see the bottom of the connections.

Harley613 · #**355** Posted **Dec 27, 2023, 5:08 PM**

SL123 · #**356** Posted **May 17, 2024, 12:52 AM**

They've installed the fence on the bridge. its very "transparent" and doesnt add "weight" to the bridge so its a positive in my opinion

J.OT13 · #**357** Posted **May 17, 2024, 1:24 PM**

Not a fan of the railing, but I guess glass would be a maintenance nightmare and wrought iron would look off on this modern bridge. Overall though, looks good.

ponyboycurtis · #**358** Posted **May 21, 2024, 9:56 PM**

I found myself wandering around town yesterday and without any intention of doing so migrated to Majors Hill Park and then got curious.

The public washrooms at the base of the bridge are still shuttered btw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEJJbxz4dbg&ab_channel=ponyboycurtis007

DTcrawler · #**359** Posted **May 22, 2024, 12:38 AM**

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I found myself wandering around town yesterday and without any intention of doing so migrated to Majors Hill Park and then got curious.

The public washrooms at the base of the bridge are still shuttered btw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEJJbxz4dbg&ab_channel=ponyboycurtis007

A+ commentary... "clean up in aisle me" is one I'm adding to the repertoire for sure

J.OT13 · #**360** Posted **May 22, 2024, 12:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by ponyboycurtis

I found myself wandering around town yesterday and without any intention of doing so migrated to Majors Hill Park and then got curious.

The public washrooms at the base of the bridge are still shuttered btw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEJJbxz4dbg&ab_channel=ponyboycurtis007

That was hilarious! And agreed, that view is something else.