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[CoryB]

Originally Posted by FactaNV

Something tells me we'd get the parkade and that's about it lmao. Seriously though, as much as I think we don't need more parkades downtown, I'd take anything over a surface lot. Is there any renders or plans detailing that?

If we want downtown to keep growing including parking is going to be a requirement. For every surface lot that is converted to another use the plan should be to replace the lost parking and then further add the amount of needed parking for whatever is being built.

That said 11 levels of parking in downtown seems excessive to the point it could result in lowering the cost for parking, lowering the revenue for lots including surface lots, and have a medium to long term negative impact on the development of more parking downtown. if you hate downtown parking this could have a "positive" impact on your view of the situation as it might finally be the tipping point to get surface lots shut down.

Originally Posted by thebasketballgeek

Oh lord how is this even allowed to be built or make any sort of business sense? Just to appease a few suburban commuters and police officers like give me a fucking break. At the very least if they are so adamant about a parkade there should be some sort of street front presence like the one on King and Bannatyne but that’s probably not going to happen.

For the love of all things holy new parking lots in downtown absolutely must have street level CRU. I am very pro-parking compared to the rest of this forum and even I absolutely hate what CentrePoint turned into. The original plan of ground level units, multi-level parking with a common area for the residential that then sat on top of the parkade was a superior plan to the short term rental mess they crapped out.

[WinCitySparky]

^ Good points

[bomberjet]

Is the CentrePoint parkade busy? It always looks dead. But maybe that's just the main level as nobody parks there for obvious reasons.

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by Hecate

Honestly how this developer was even chosen by centre venture and the city is beyond me… and the lengths they’ve gone to save face on this joke of a “development” is hilarious. social climbers helping social climbers.

It was them or a vacant lot, basically....social climbers? LOL.

The parkade has ground floor commercial space and doesn't look as bad as people are picturing....may actually look better than the tower did, ha ha.

I don't understand their business plan at all, but it's their money.

City shouldn't have forced CV to buy the hotel in the first place, but a multi-million dollar development is at least better than a a vacant lot....maybe it will make development of surrounding parking lots more viable because they won't have to build indoor parking, or can build less parking.

[pspeid]

Originally Posted by trueviking

It was them or a vacant lot, basically....not sure what lengths you are referring to.

The parkade has ground floor commercial space and doesn't look as bad as people are picturing.

I don't understand their business plan at all, but it's their money.

Is there a new render available? It would be interesting to see how the ground level commercial space might look.

And for what it's worth, I agree it's better than a vacant lot.

[Labroco]

If the $12,000,000 existing parkade (with $2,000,000 of deferred maintenance) does not make economic sense how in the world will a new 11 storey non government subsidized parkade even get financed?

I just do not believe it’s going to break ground in this economic climate. I hope it’s not a dentist syndicated development that turns out as Fortis 2.0…

Why would they not just take the budgeted construction costs and buy all the parking lots in the area? No risk and instant cash flow.

It’s beyond strange.

As long as the site is not “temporarily” parked I’m ok.

Just hope CV has been paid in full and does not get stuck for $3,600,000.

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by Labroco

If the $12,000,000 existing parkade (with $2,000,000 of deferred maintenance) does not make economic sense how in the world will a new 11 storey non government subsidized parkade even get financed?

I just do not believe it’s going to break ground in this economic climate. I hope it’s not a dentist syndicated development that turns out as Fortis 2.0…

Why would they not just take the budgeted construction costs and buy all the parking lots in the area? No risk and instant cash flow.

It’s beyond strange.

As long as the site is not “temporarily” parked I’m ok.

Just hope CV has been paid in full and does not get stuck for $3,600,000.

I agree....it makes no sense...CV was paid, and the developer paid to demolish the building...

[Biff]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Is the CentrePoint parkade busy? It always looks dead. But maybe that's just the main level as nobody parks there for obvious reasons.

Every time I park at the CentrePoint parkade it is busy. The main floor is always empty because it is for handicap parking and I guess there never is any handicapped people there.

[CoryB]

CentrePoint has almost zero available parking on the Hargrave side even including the handicap spaces. Further there are other handicap spaces further up in the structure near the second floor walkway connecting to the Air BnB and Alt hotels.

Based on the number of reserved parking signs it would seem to run at least 1/3 to 1/2 full before daily parking gets factored in.

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In terms of the 11 floor monster that is being discussed I hope there is some clause on the agreement that if the parking developer fails to proceed with a full building after a set period of time that CV then has a buy back provision for the original cost of the structure. Also hopefully the structure will had a mandatory pad to support a tower built on top at a later time. If those provisions do not exist it is time to sink this whole deal.

[WinCitySparky]

“Connecting to the Air BnB” lol way to sneak that in

[bomberjet]

Thanks for the info on CentrePoint. I've never been in the parkade.

[ColdRain&Snow]

Noticed this on the Paragon Design Build website:



Address is 2320 McGillivray Blvd, across the street from the Costco in Kenaston Common. Estimated completion date is May 2026. Always great to see more rental housing getting built.

More info:
https://www.paragonliving.com/projects/2320-mcgillivray

[peg]

I like the U-shaped form of the larger building

[DonaldSmith]

[Biff]

Finally. Getting that space filled in is one of the best things to happen to Provencher. They can't build it fast enough.

[WinCitySparky]

Woo!!

[ColdRain&Snow]

Provencher has so much potential. Very excited to see this new building getting started!

[optimusREIM]

Need the lot where that autoshop burned to get filled. I know there was another proposal next door, never heard what happened to it?

[FactaNV]

Originally Posted by Biff

Finally. Getting that space filled in is one of the best things to happen to Provencher. They can't build it fast enough.

Amazing! Let's get it going. Provencher really could be another Corydon or Osborne with some work. Anyone know the ETA on this?

[Biff]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

I know there was another proposal next door, never heard what happened to it?

It is still in the works. Interest rates hike hit the project. They are currently working on the financing piece (like most projects).

8 storey - 96 unit