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Originally Posted by csbvan
Unfortunately, the False Creek Flats Plan sees none of this happening. It's a mess of a plan based on 90s assumptions that will keep the Terminal corridor locked in its current state for decades.
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The False Creek Flats Plan was approved in 2017, and was updated from an earlier plan to reflect the decision to move the hospital to the area. That's why there are higher density office buildings (compared to the previous plan) approved near the station, and on the corner of Prior and Station.
The Terminal spine remains zoned industrial while the southern corridor along Great Northern Way, and the Health Campus both allow higher densities because of their proximity to transit. Accurately, the plan notes 'the Terminal Spine sub-area is largely cut off from surrounding areas by railyards'.
As the future uses that are allowed (provided industrial space is retained) and the potential densities are higher than the previous plan, the number of jobs is expected to double to nearly 5,000. In future Auto Dealer is limited to 1.0 FSR and conditional on the delivery of a complete 3.0 FSR development, including a minimum of 1.0 FSR of light industrial, so the Dueck, Porsche, Ford and Audi developments won't see any additional neighbours in the same low density buildings, but there could be redevelopment or additions to make their properties significantly denser. We've already seen AbCellera construct their manufacturing plant in the area, with is a big change from recycling and doument storage.
The earlier 1990s Plan was more ambitious about north-south routes, and the removal of the rail tracks - but that turned out to be entirely unworkable as the railways have no intention of giving up tracks, and the costs (and complexity) of adding additional viaducts isn't likely to be possible.
In realtion to FarmerHaights points; Building the streetcar and tearing down the viaducts are beyond the scope of the area. It's likely the viaducts will go - once Concord decides to develop their NEFC sites. The streetcar, given the costs and that the City isn't set up to run transit or subsidize it (and TransLink aren't currently interested) seems to be to be still a long way off.
Cleaning up Thornton Park seems likely - except it's the Park Board, and they seem to be incapable of managing the priorities they already have, and like wasting money removing bike lanes rather than investing in anything new. The trees in the Park are already falling apart, so there will probably have to be some more serious intervention to replan the park at some point soon. Renewal of the park is specifically mentioned in the Plan, and a new pedestrian/bike link to Trillium Park.
The Province has recently bought some of the dilapidated buildings on Main between Terminal and Prior for non-market housing, and two of the buildings are new(ish) non-market, and one a condo. It doesn't seem likely the owners of the last couple of older previously industrial buildings will sit on them for too long.
It looks like there are some sort of planned pedestrian and bike improvements for the area, with bits of bike lane appearing on Quebec, but I agree more is needed. It may be waiting for the post-viaducts makeover and the new bike/ped bridge. I'm not sure which pedestrian plaza between Main and Quebec should be opened up, but the one currently fenced off in Citygate is private property, not a public right-of-way, or a park.
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