ASU/UofA Downtown Phoenix construction thread - Page 82

combusean · #**1621** Posted **Sep 14, 2023, 11:17 PM**

They downscaled it. The second building was supposed to be like double the sqft and podium parked.

MiEncanto · #**1622** Posted **Sep 14, 2023, 11:39 PM**

I still dont understand these markets. It feels like a weird gray area. ASU owns it but it's all privately financed? And it's for research but its mostly space for startups? How many students will be in there? Do they have agreements where they have to take students as interns or something? The whole thing feels fishy to me.

combusean · #**1623** Posted **Sep 14, 2023, 11:51 PM**

ASU leases the space, they don't own it. But it's built on city-owned land because it supports the city's bioscience initiatives so there's some kind of tax break going on.

It's a commercial building leased to whoever wants the space just like any other at the end of the day. With asu as an anchor tenant or whoever else they sign on precosntruction they don't have to build the entire thing on spec which is very risky.

ASU Diablo · #**1624** Posted **Oct 2, 2023, 6:26 PM**

Continuing the topic from the Tempe thread, pulled the couple tidbits pertaining to downtown:

UA CAMI building scheduled to break ground next summer
Looks like a new ASU Academic Building will be built, not sure of location. "This multi-level facility will provide needed labs and classrooms as well as instructional space to support new university initiatives and accommodate the continued growth of academic programs and student enrollment in Downtown Phoenix."
More parking garages coming to the PBC "This new multi-level parking structure will replace existing surface parking spots to accommodate the demand for additional parking in Downtown Phoenix. The parking structure will provide the essential capacity required to support the academic, cultural and social activities throughout the Phoenix Bioscience Core."

https://arizonastateu.sharepoint.com/:b:...sH6Z1MsZR-PKy3NNYBsve3gK9XYTVWBhd2LgO1ug

Obadno · #**1625** Posted **Oct 3, 2023, 5:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

Continuing the topic from the Tempe thread, pulled the couple tidbits pertaining to downtown:

More parking garages coming to the PBC "This new multi-level parking structure will replace existing surface parking spots to accommodate the demand for additional parking in Downtown Phoenix. The parking structure will provide the essential capacity required to support the academic, cultural and social activities throughout the Phoenix Bioscience Core."

Im not surprised I have already heard grumbling about the cost of parking downtown now that many of the old lots are under construction.

ASU Diablo · #**1626** Posted **Oct 19, 2023, 4:30 PM**

So happy new ASU Med School is getting built in downtown. My money was on the Discovery Oasis corridor (Mayo).

https://x.com/asunews/status/1715005462834225582?s=46&t=Kwc5fdQz-9xto6gli9jVMg

So all 3 new buildings will be in downtown. Where is it all going to go?

PBJ article below.

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news...location-for-its-new-medical-school.html

Quote:

Arizona State University has selected Phoenix Bioscience Core in downtown Phoenix for its new medical school, Phoenix Mayor Kate Gallego told Phoenix Business Journal Oct. 19.

In June, ASU President Michael Crow had hinted that ASU's new medical school likely would be built on one of the three Phoenix biomedical campuses.

At the time, he wasn't sure which one would be selected.

Gallego said the ASU School of Medicine and Advanced Medical Engineering will be built in the Phoenix Bioscience Core, which is already home to University of Arizona's medical school, as well as ASU and Northern Arizona University health-related programs.

Link to current PBC site plan. My guess is once the Mercado is razed, this will be built on top of it.

https://enpdb27vr3w.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/10/PBC-Map_KS.pdf

CrestedSaguaro · #**1627** Posted **Oct 19, 2023, 5:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

So happy new ASU Med School is getting built in downtown. My money was on the Discovery Oasis corridor (Mayo).

https://x.com/asunews/status/1715005462834225582?s=46&t=Kwc5fdQz-9xto6gli9jVMg

So all 3 new buildings will be in downtown. Where is it all going to go?

PBJ article below.

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news...location-for-its-new-medical-school.html

Link to current PBC site plan. My guess is once the Mercado is razed, this will be built on top of it.

https://enpdb27vr3w.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/10/PBC-Map_KS.pdf

This is fantastic news!

Obadno · #**1628** Posted **Oct 19, 2023, 5:44 PM**

Yes great news Med Schools deserve to be downtown.

MiEncanto · #**1629** Posted **Oct 19, 2023, 5:53 PM**

Are they still calling it a med school? I thought it was Public Health and bioscience?

UofA is the only school with the authorization in law to have a med school...

A med school to me means you grant MDs or DOs

Obadno · #**1630** Posted **Oct 19, 2023, 5:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by MiEncanto

Are they still calling it a med school? I thought it was Public Health and bioscience?

UofA is the only school with the authorization in law to have a med school...

A med school to me means you grant MDs or DOs

The plan is for a med school that grants MD’s but no idea how long that could take to get going

MiEncanto · #**1631** Posted **Oct 19, 2023, 6:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Obadno

The plan is for a med school that grants MD’s but no idea how long that could take to get going

Source?

YourBuddy · #**1632** Posted **Oct 19, 2023, 7:55 PM**

Just saw this on instagram, great news. Really big deal for downtown to get this when the Scottsdale Mayo option was available.

combusean · #**1633** Posted **Oct 19, 2023, 7:55 PM**

This was already decided several months ago. ABOR, who has historically forbidden ASU from building a med school, finally ditched their small time Tucson provincial 🞵🞵🞵🞵 and did a complete 180.

https://news.asu.edu/20231019-university...-medical-school-located-downtown-phoenix

ASU Diablo · #**1634** Posted **Oct 19, 2023, 8:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by combusean

This was already decided several months ago. ABOR, who has historically forbidden ASU from building a med school, finally ditched their small time Tucson provincial 🞵🞵🞵🞵 and did a complete 180.

https://news.asu.edu/20231019-university...-medical-school-located-downtown-phoenix

Yes medical school was announced several months ago but the actual location was never disclosed. Until today

combusean · #**1635** Posted **Oct 20, 2023, 12:04 AM**

So this is still dependent on the future bond issue to build a 4 story building downtown?

That's a big if for not much of a shiny project. I have a hard time imagining the gaggle of suburban voters would be willing to pay for something they'll never see. Why isn't the state funding this?

combusean · #**1636** Posted **Oct 20, 2023, 12:25 AM**

I seem to remember a better site plan for the Biomedical core from Phoenix's econ development that may have been posted here but I can't find it.

It showed the actual massings with potential floor plates replacing the Mercado. Does anyone have it?

azcats · #**1637** Posted **Oct 20, 2023, 2:49 AM**

According to a news article from The State Press, the new medical school at Arizona State University will be funded by ASU revenue, private investors, philanthropy, and public investment. However, according to a more recent news article from ASU News, the university’s headquarters for ASU Health, which includes a new medical school, will be privately funded.
Arizona State University and Phoenix Mayor Kate Gallego confirmed that ASU will build its new medical school in downtown Phoenix. Voters will be presented with a bond on the Nov. 7 ballot that would earmark $12 million for the new medical school, Gallego said.

Last June...Crow stated - all funding would be from private sources. Sure wish he would be honest - or, make up his mind. So far, I have only seen reports of funds from the taxpayers. $30 million from the Board of Regents...and if this bond passes: $12 million. Starting from scratch - that won't get you very far. However, you have to start somewhere. What medical disciplines will be taught in the initial building that is being shown? These buildings are expensive: Two new buildings at the UofA are nearing completion - and they are running each around $100 million. That is just for brick and mortar. Andrew Weil's Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine down at the UofA is getting his own building - small - but, is also nearly completed: The construction alone is costing $23 million.
With Arizona's population growing - it seems adding 1 million every 10 years - we will be at roughly 9 million within 20 years. That is probably when asu's school will start to have an impact. However, no mention of what their school will comprise. They need to let the public know what their plans and desires are - then, start raising money.

azcats · #**1638** Posted **Oct 20, 2023, 3:00 AM**

The UofA medical school down in Tucson - the whole complex with hospital...pharmacy school...Cancer Center...nursing school...research buildings....Heart Center...Children's Center...Respiratory Center, etc., and more - occupy a huge amount of territory north of Speedway and along Campbell Ave. If asu intends to grow into a major med school complex as the UofA has - do they own enough land in the Phoenix Bio complex between Van Buren & Roosevelt and 5th Street & 7th Street?

azcats · #**1639** Posted **Oct 20, 2023, 3:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by MiEncanto

Are they still calling it a med school? I thought it was Public Health and bioscience?

UofA is the only school with the authorization in law to have a med school...

A med school to me means you grant MDs or DOs

Correct: Brick and mortar is one thing and cost lots of money. Getting accreditation (getting approval) The school can't function without accreditation...endowing chairs ($$$$)...professorships($$$)...staff ($$$)- is another. Building reputation is another.

You have to start somewhere...and Arizona continues to grow.

azcats · #**1640** Posted **Oct 20, 2023, 1:53 PM**

https://healthsciences.arizona.edu/sites...hs_eastside_panoramic-marque.jpg?itok=sN

This photo of the UofA medical school complex down in Tucson shows how much room will be needed over the years for ASU to build their med school. This photo does not include all of the facilities that the UofA has built for their medical school complex: centers...institutes...hospitals, etc.

https://deptmedicine.arizona.edu/

Over the years - the UofA med school down in Tucson has developed many divisions/centers/specialities/departments/ sub-specialities, etc...and has had to build many facilities to house all of them.

https://cibs.uahs.arizona.edu/
Not sure why this one wasn't listed under the med school centers.

https://medicine.arizona.edu/sites/default/files/bannerumc_0.jpg

https://peds.arizona.edu/education/medstudents/electives

https://heart.arizona.edu/university-arizona-sarver-heart-center-fellowship-virtual-campus-tour