London Roads - Page 76

jammer139 · #**1501** Posted **Aug 29, 2023, 2:52 PM**

London has more then its share of high risk intersections due to poor design and geometry. I would suspect that the majority of the collisions we have in our annual top 10 collision intersections list are left turns.

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I sell traffic equipment and have been working with City of Halifax NS on some designs that also include these "no left without green arrow" intersections. These are usually established on high-risk intersections for accidents when turning left. I've seen them used here more for pedestrian safety, but that's usually the reason. Some behind-the-scenes traffic study recommended it.

MolsonExport · #**1502** Posted **Aug 29, 2023, 5:31 PM**

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Talbot CP bridge eats another vehicle.

https://london.ctvnews.ca/talbot-street-bridge-strikes-again-1.6539140

The dude driving the truck mustn't be the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Djeffery · #**1503** Posted **Aug 30, 2023, 3:00 PM**

I would be curious what the posted height of the truck is. It's rare to see a London based company hitting that bridge, it's usually out of town companies or dads driving a moving truck bringing their kids to Western. I have seen pictures of another truck that hit that bridge a few years ago and quite clearly in the picture was a height sticker on the front corner of the truck box, which would be visible to the driver in his sideview mirror, that the truck was lower than the bridge. Maybe that sticker was wrong, but maybe the sign on the bridge is wrong too. This produce company truck wasn't grossly overheight for that bridge, so it's quite possible the height of the truck was listed as less than 3.3m, leading the driver to believe he was fine to go through there.

I know the truck I regularly drive has a sticker that says 3.95m and there is way more than 5cm between the roof and the underside of the Richmond CN underpass that is posted at 4m. A standard tractor trailer is 4.11m high and I see them go through that underpass somewhat regularly and that stretch is a posted truck route (which it wouldn't be if the underpass was only 4m as the sign says).

jammer139 · #**1504** Posted **Aug 31, 2023, 1:11 PM**

LFP article discussing the fact the Talbot Street CP overpass bridge is not going to be rebuilt anytime in the future.

The cost implications are insane and not likely to happen until such time that CP has to replace the bridge due to structural failure. Think >50 yrs.

I wonder how many years the CP bridge over the Thames river to the west has before it needs to be replaced. That will be one expensive engineering project.

https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/infa...-to-stay-despite-occasional-crashes-city

Djeffery · #**1505** Posted **Aug 31, 2023, 2:08 PM**

There certainly isn't a need to replace this underpass solely for the purpose of providing a route for trucks. Perhaps when it's time to be replaced, they can make it wider to allow a longer left turn lane onto Oxford and also bike lanes. But as a truck driver who delivers downtown quite frequently, this route would only be a nice to have, but I can deal just fine the way things are. Raising the clearance would just make Talbot a busy truck road and it doesn't need to be. Those of us servicing the local area know how to get there and it's not like it's an epidemic of trucks hitting that bridge anyway.

Djeffery · #**1506** Posted **Sep 3, 2023, 10:58 PM**

Went through Col Talbot and Southdale intersection this weekend. Curbs and first coat of pavement done on the westbound side a bit east of the intersection. They have the metal stakes laid out for the north half of the roundabout ready to put the curbs in. I would assume they want to get that done and paved in the next few weeks so they can shift traffic and get curbs in for the east bound side. Not sure if there is any sewer work that has to be done on the EB side or if that was done before the temporary 2 way lanes were put in.

jammer139 · #**1507** Posted **Sep 8, 2023, 11:04 AM**

Queen St finally reopens after BRT downtown loop phase construction. Next up is Wellington phase of downtown loop.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/queens-avenue-reopened-london-ontario-1.6958337

Spoofy · #**1508** Posted **Sep 9, 2023, 9:58 PM**

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Queen St finally reopens after BRT downtown loop phase construction. Next up is Wellington phase of downtown loop.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/queens-avenue-reopened-london-ontario-1.6958337

I've always wondered, with these new BRT-only lanes, if a driver is turning right do they merge into the BRT-only lane and then make their turn, or do the turn from the right-most car lane?

Djeffery · #**1509** Posted **Sep 9, 2023, 10:08 PM**

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I've always wondered, with these new BRT-only lanes, if a driver is turning right do they merge into the BRT-only lane and then make their turn, or do the turn from the right-most car lane?

I haven't been on Queen's yet and King has limited examples so far. But on King at Clarence, there is a right turn lane to the right of the bus lane. There are no right turns allowed from King onto Talbot or Richmond.

Pimpmasterdac · #**1510** Posted **Sep 10, 2023, 1:21 AM**

Drove on Queens Ave Thursday, there is a dedicated right turn lane to Richmond that requires cars to cross over the BRT lane to get to. At Clarence and Talbot some short dash marks at the end of the right most turn lane, which I assume they want drivers to turn from.

However knowing how well the dedicated BRT lanes have worked on King St, wouldn't be surprised if people do make right turns in the BRT lanes or use it as a drop off lane for employees at Canada Life or One London Place.

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I've always wondered, with these new BRT-only lanes, if a driver is turning right do they merge into the BRT-only lane and then make their turn, or do the turn from the right-most car lane?

jammer139 · #**1511** Posted **Sep 16, 2023, 12:03 PM**

City planning at it finest.

Your taxes being wasted.

https://london.ctvnews.ca/city-ripping-o...ulevards-to-replace-with-grass-1.6564069

Djeffery · #**1512** Posted **Sep 16, 2023, 1:05 PM**

Yeah, pretty dumb reaction to what they did. It looks fine as is, and the paved boulevards are how it was before (only wider). If I was a resident, I would be pushing my councillor to lobby to leave mine paved and it sounds like a lot of the residents feel that way.

manny_santos · #**1513** Posted **Sep 18, 2023, 10:07 PM**

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I've always wondered, with these new BRT-only lanes, if a driver is turning right do they merge into the BRT-only lane and then make their turn, or do the turn from the right-most car lane?

I would assume that cars turning right would be allowed to use those lanes if and only if they're turning. I know in Toronto that non-bus drivers are allowed to do this with bus-only lanes.

jammer139 · #**1514** Posted **Sep 23, 2023, 2:52 PM**

Looks like the block south of Oxford St on Quebec has now finished with the underground pipes as they have now installed the concrete curbs and started grading. Still no sidewalks but at least there are signs that the major utility replacement is near the end.

tyeman200 · #**1515** Posted **Sep 25, 2023, 12:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by dreamcamera

I sell traffic equipment and have been working with City of Halifax NS on some designs that also include these "no left without green arrow" intersections. These are usually established on high-risk intersections for accidents when turning left. I've seen them used here more for pedestrian safety, but that's usually the reason. Some behind-the-scenes traffic study recommended it.

With the intersection I'm referencing, it really isn't a high risk. There is pretty much 0 pedestrians, and I feel it is more dangerous with the separate turn lane signal.

I almost T-boned someone because they just decided to go left while I was going straight. Had they been able to pull out into the intersection and turn, they would have seen me.

jammer139 · #**1516** Posted **Oct 1, 2023, 11:19 PM**

Base coat of asphalt now installed on Quebec St south of Oxford. Should see it re-opened soon.

jammer139 · #**1517** Posted **Oct 2, 2023, 2:35 PM**

7-24 work this week for the intersection of Fanshawe and Richmond.

https://londonnewstoday.ca/london/news/2...ville-intersection-to-go-round-the-clock

CanadianTalk · #**1518** Posted **Oct 3, 2023, 12:06 AM**

The public info session for the Gore Road and Hamilton Road intersection improvements study was tonight.

A roundabout is recommended for this intersection.

You can find a video recording of the presentation slides at https://getinvolved.london.ca/gorehamilton

haljackey · #**1519** Posted **Oct 3, 2023, 2:16 PM**

That's interesting this is going to be a double lane roundabout. Would it not make sense to 4-lane Hamilton from Hale to Gore? Does not make a lot of sense to have a lane drop just to have it pop up again here. I think the traffic needs justify this widening.

Djeffery · #**1520** Posted **Oct 3, 2023, 2:23 PM**

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That's interesting this is going to be a double lane roundabout. Would it not make sense to 4-lane Hamilton from Hale to Gore? Does not make a lot of sense to have a lane drop just to have it pop up again here. I think the traffic needs justify this widening.

I think they are building this with that eventuality in mind, although I don't know that it is on a calendar yet.