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Originally Posted by stiffdeadman
pretty embarrassing for YVR that they can't manage a medium workload of flights. god help these controllers if they had to work a busy more complex airport like seattle, or san francisco, both of which are far busier and not slot controlled.
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Calm down.
1. Runway slots aren't ATC slots. They're imposed by the airport authority in order to smoothen out operations. Yes, the number of slots are planned with the help of ATC, for obvious reasons, but this is 100% a YVRAA initiative.
2. YVR ATC is severely short staffed. Which means even with these slots, there will be specific times during the day when the rate will be lowered even more by ATC, sometimes by as much as half. It's all done in the name of safety. They're called GDP's. Ground delay programs. You can get GDP's for weather as well. (And btw, it's the same thing down in the States. SFO, in particular, gets a GDP going as soon as there is a cloud in the sky. That airport can't handle bad weather at all).
Having a look at the slots for YVR during the first week of W23 ops, every single hour of every single day, so far, still has slots available to grab. That's not the case at YYZ and YUL. So this whole kerfuffle should be mostly transparent for airlines at YVR. (Mind you, I do see YVR set the airport arrival rate to 70 at 8am on certain days that week, which is weird, as that rate is very high and realistically not achievable. Might be done on purpose for this first season, to make sure airlines get what they want, for now.)
You can play around with the website and look for yourself.
https://www.online-coordination.com/frontend/#/availWeek
There is nothing embarrassing about putting in runway slots. Frankly, I'm surprised YVR didn't already have them. After all, they are a IATA level 3 slot controlled airport, and have been for years, but I'm guessing it's been more for gate constraints (pre-COVID) than anything else.
Also, the fact they're putting in the slots at the beginning of the W23 season tells me they want to avoid what happened during the snowstorm last winter, which is a very good thing.
There are over 200 slot controlled airports around the world (controlled for either runway capacity or gate capacity). It's done for a reason.
As for your silly comparison with the US, you're forgetting that at airports such as SEA, SFO or EWR, even though they aren't slot controlled, the schedules must still be approved by the regulators. Also, airlines must secure the necessary gate and terminal space, which is no easy task, especially at those 3.
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