1330-1346 Bank St | 90+95m | 27+29f | Proposed

[stolenottawa]

Originally Posted by Arcologist

Does anybody know why Riverside is split like that, and if it really needs to be? I know it's not possible to change things around now, but I wonder what the reasoning is as it just seems it would have been much easier to have two side-by-side lanes crossing Bank, rather than a split road creating two separate intersections.

It was brought up during the city meetings for across the street and the city staff really did not want to get involved in talking about or making that change despite citizens and the councillor asking about it. I seem to remember them talking about the ncc having something to do with making it complicated.

[YIMBY]

Walked by the site on Saturday and it looks like they're beginning site prep or they're turning this site into another staging area for the Bank Street renewal. Regardless, they have a couple of excavators on site and have removed all hardscaping and shrubbery on site.





Images by me... sorry for the small size, it only took me a half hour to figure out how to post images inline... If someone has advice on how to post larger format images, it would be greatly welcomed.

[vtecyo]

Originally Posted by stolenottawa

It was brought up during the city meetings for across the street and the city staff really did not want to get involved in talking about or making that change despite citizens and the councillor asking about it. I seem to remember them talking about the ncc having something to do with making it complicated.

I had no idea the NCC owned much land along the Rideau river, but apparently they do. I'm under the impression everything coloured in this map is NCC land:


I can't figure out why the NCC would prefer to keep the current split alignment. Surely moving the road away from the river would improve the area for everyone?

The original can be found here - https://ncc-hub-ncc-ccn.hub.arcgis.com/apps/a70d6c7461554d59b866d919f37bd3ed/explore and here https://ncc-hub-ncc-ccn.hub.arcgis.com/

You have to turn on the data layer for Ontario/Quebec urban lands.

[rocketphish]

Originally Posted by YIMBY

Images by me... sorry for the small size, it only took me a half hour to figure out how to post images inline... If someone has advice on how to post larger format images, it would be greatly welcomed.

Maybe this will be helpful: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=246386

[vtecyo]

Originally Posted by YIMBY

Walked by the site on Saturday and it looks like they're beginning site prep or they're turning this site into another staging area for the Bank Street renewal. Regardless, they have a couple of excavators on site and have removed all hardscaping and shrubbery on site.





Images by me... sorry for the small size, it only took me a half hour to figure out how to post images inline... If someone has advice on how to post larger format images, it would be greatly welcomed.

If you're using Flickr the instructions at the bottom of this page should work:
https://www.flickrhelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/4404078014356-Share-or-embed-Flickr-photos-albums

Because of the ancient web design of the forum you should keep the image width to around 1000px or so, since there's no image resizing in the forum output.

[YIMBY]

Originally Posted by rocketphish

Maybe this will be helpful: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=246386

This worked, thanks! More helpful than the general "posting photos to the forum" discussion.

[skyscraperaccount]

Originally Posted by Arcologist

Does anybody know why Riverside is split like that, and if it really needs to be? I know it's not possible to change things around now, but I wonder what the reasoning is as it just seems it would have been much easier to have two side-by-side lanes crossing Bank, rather than a split road creating two separate intersections.

This photo is from 1945...the river side portion of Riverside already in place and development already in place at the intersection...not sure when they 'twinned' Riverside but going around was likely more accptable than bulldozing through

https://gsg.uottawa.ca/geo/airphotos/1945/A9616/A9616_26.jpg

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by skyscraperaccount

This photo is from 1945...the river side portion of Riverside already in place and development already in place at the intersection...not sure when they 'twinned' Riverside but going around was likely more accptable than bulldozing through

https://gsg.uottawa.ca/geo/airphotos/1945/A9616/A9616_26.jpg

Twinning took place in 1960/1961. This made for much safer left turns off of Bank by using the ramps between the twinned Riverside Drive instead of direct left turns. Because the area was historically so flood prone, the only things removed were the Billings ruins (moved and recreated as a monument across the street) and the 'Hull' Boer War monument that sadly was not returned to the immediate area. It is now located in St. George's Anglican Cemetery on Russell Road, a much less prominent location.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by skyscraperaccount

This photo is from 1945...the river side portion of Riverside already in place and development already in place at the intersection...not sure when they 'twinned' Riverside but going around was likely more accptable than bulldozing through

https://gsg.uottawa.ca/geo/airphotos/1945/A9616/A9616_26.jpg

How is this not a GeoOttawa timestamp layer?

[DarthVader_1961]

Originally Posted by YIMBY

Walked by the site on Saturday and it looks like they're beginning site prep or they're turning this site into another staging area for the Bank Street renewal. Regardless, they have a couple of excavators on site and have removed all hardscaping and shrubbery on site.





Images by me... sorry for the small size, it only took me a half hour to figure out how to post images inline... If someone has advice on how to post larger format images, it would be greatly welcomed.

Definitely not excavation. Just walked by this morning…. Spreading fresh dirt on the site. Just leveling it out I guess,.. for now

[Marcus CLS]

More or less agree with the previous post. Cycled by this afternoon. Specifically top soil spread on granular packed and temp. fencing is removed.

[rocketphish]

The site now appears to have been partially hydroseeded, and also has two smallish squares of actual sod in the middle.



August 12, 2023
Photo by me

[Landscape Lenny]

Thanks for the progress photo. Anyone have any idea why they would do this? Maybe the contractor just had a couple of excess rolls in the truck? Also not sure why all the topsoil isn't hydroseeded.

[OTownandDown]

I brought this up a couple years ago somewhere on this website lol.

Its a shame, this is the ONLY time in like 100 years (before AND after today) where there are no buildings on the southern alignment, either east or west of the southern intersection. Would it be so difficult to construct the other two lanes through the southern alignment right now? Probably wouldn't even need any major road closures.

But it's true, the heavy NCC bureaucracy makes the entire conversation next to impossible.

Forget about making things better in a smart way. Lets just keep things as they are. Riverside / Vanier Parkway is classic for that. No touching allowed!

Originally Posted by stolenottawa

It was brought up during the city meetings for across the street and the city staff really did not want to get involved in talking about or making that change despite citizens and the councillor asking about it. I seem to remember them talking about the ncc having something to do with making it complicated.

[Richard Eade]

I would suggest that the sod was placed around the sewer so that the seeds don't simply flow away to the river.

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by OTownandDown

I brought this up a couple years ago somewhere on this website lol.

Its a shame, this is the ONLY time in like 100 years (before AND after today) where there are no buildings on the southern alignment, either east or west of the southern intersection. Would it be so difficult to construct the other two lanes through the southern alignment right now? Probably wouldn't even need any major road closures.

But it's true, the heavy NCC bureaucracy makes the entire conversation next to impossible.

Forget about making things better in a smart way. Lets just keep things as they are. Riverside / Vanier Parkway is classic for that. No touching allowed!

How does this make things better? I expect there would be a lot more traffic accidents.

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by Richard Eade

I would suggest that the sod was placed around the sewer so that the seeds don't simply flow away to the river.

That makes sense.

[rocketphish]

All fenced-off now. Wow that spray-on grass grew quickly!



Photo by me
Sept 20, 2023

[water_mage73]

Anyone have any updates on this project? I was looking at the city of Ottawa devapps and it seems the project no longer exists? Maybe they decided to not go ahead due to all the flooding?

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by water_mage73

Anyone have any updates on this project? I was looking at the city of Ottawa devapps and it seems the project no longer exists? Maybe they decided to not go ahead due to all the flooding?

tsk, tsk, tsk. I have had my knuckles wrapped by those who provided maps saying this was not a flood zone, despite the fact that the neighbouring two buildings have had a history of flooding. I expect they will eventually build on this land.