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Old Posted Sep 7, 2023, 12:34 AM
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As a wise commenter on that story noted, the entire Cogswell project was sold to Council by Mason and his like-minded friends on the basis that selling off the lands for development would generate the funds required to build the downtown nirvana of bike lanes, roundabouts and parks because the property was so valuable. Building subsidized housing and a bigger Turning Point shelter there would not only devalue the properties significantly but also require tax dollars tossed into the pot to make happen, thereby destroying any business case for this.
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2023, 12:39 AM
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As a wise commenter on that story noted, the entire Cogswell project was sold to Council by Mason and his like-minded friends on the basis that selling off the lands for development would generate the funds required to build the downtown nirvana of bike lanes, roundabouts and parks because the property was so valuable. Building subsidized housing and a bigger Turning Point shelter there would not only devalue the properties significantly but also require tax dollars tossed into the pot to make happen, thereby destroying any business case for this.
It is presented a bit confusingly but I think the Turning Point site would be farther north along Barrington, not on the Cogswell lands.

Affordable housing can still be money-generating if density is permitted (and is not necessarily the same thing as a shelter). If you put 300 units on a $15M parcel the per unit land cost is a reasonable $50,000. If you demand that the parcel have a NIMBY-pleasing 30-unit lowrise, the land cost is $500,000 per unit which works out to million-plus eventual unit prices. Or alternatively the land must be sold for much less to achieve the same cost structure.

Also note that if HRM put in better transit infrastructure around there (like an underground bus loop) they'd be able to partly recoup the increased land values (or even just sell more land as less surface space would be used). That's on top of construction being cheaper when the whole area is torn up.
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Until an efficient way to include truly affordable units in new developments is devised, why not use sites that already exist. I think a 30 storey building would blend nicely in Mulgrave Park. Federal and Provincial funds could be the catylist and all units would be very affordable.

Mulgrave Park:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.6676908,...KVcmeBA33sQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
BINGO , Excellent Idea.I notice that most media stories are focussing on marginalized communities and that Cogswell redevelopment should be low income and the Bloomfield and St Pats sites should have a component of low income. The quicker all development gets out of the ground the better for the Halifax market. Media are missing the point that the 18-34 educated cohort are losing hope in ever being able to buy anything anywhere in Canada.

The Millenials in that group are about to change Politics and policies related to Government investments and the nice to haves like low income housing, bike lanes and other Socialist ideas will be taking a back seat to lower consumer taxes, better transit and probably better wages. The Boomers retiring is what has kept unemployment lower than it should be.

The Feds just gave Irving 464 Million to expand the Shipyard and Dartmouth shops to accommodate the new Destroyers. Does anyone remember what happened to Halifax the last time the Feds made a large defence commitment? Halifax has absolutely boomed since the 2011 announcement for the NSSP. We are about to go to another level of investment in this City.
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2023, 1:10 AM
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As a wise commenter on that story noted, the entire Cogswell project was sold to Council by Mason and his like-minded friends on the basis that selling off the lands for development would generate the funds required to build the downtown nirvana of bike lanes, roundabouts and parks because the property was so valuable. Building subsidized housing and a bigger Turning Point shelter there would not only devalue the properties significantly but also require tax dollars tossed into the pot to make happen, thereby destroying any business case for this.
Speaking of parks, if what was just installed at the south end of the Cogswell St. Interchange is meant to be a park we can stop the bus right now. HRM doesn't do parks well. Poor design, poor choice of vegetation, poor maintenance and poor visioning of use. This area will be a high pedestrian traffic area and the green spaces should be a combo of hard surface materials…stone, granite etc. and planters. Lots of benches and provision for art should also be priority. 100% open grass areas with no real theme are a lost opportunity.

HRM Green Space 1:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.6418967,...NTqwgMmXP0Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

HRM Green Space 2:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.6493583,-63.5849543,3a,75y,315h,96.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sz6BhVwTteBNlNUdosVbZww!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

HRM Green Space 3:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.6513608,...zXoil_qUYig!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

HRM Green Space 4:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.7005621,...7cI7TU6AIWg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
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2393 MAYNARD STREET - Demolition underway


Halifax Developments Blog (Photo by David Jackson)

Don't think there is a thread for this but it appears to be called The Delmore



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Speaking of parks, if what was just installed at the south end of the Cogswell St. Interchange is meant to be a park we can stop the bus right now. HRM doesn't do parks well. Poor design, poor choice of vegetation, poor maintenance and poor visioning of use. This area will be a high pedestrian traffic area and the green spaces should be a combo of hard surface materials…stone, granite etc. and planters. Lots of benches and provision for art should also be priority. 100% open grass areas with no real theme are a lost opportunity.

HRM Green Space 1:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.6418967,...NTqwgMmXP0Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

HRM Green Space 2:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.6493583,-63.5849543,3a,75y,315h,96.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sz6BhVwTteBNlNUdosVbZww!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

HRM Green Space 3:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.6513608,...zXoil_qUYig!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

HRM Green Space 4:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.7005621,...7cI7TU6AIWg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu


Whoever did those green spaces needs to be fired - how embarrassing
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2023, 5:16 PM
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Speaking of parks, if what was just installed at the south end of the Cogswell St. Interchange is meant to be a park we can stop the bus right now. HRM doesn't do parks well. Poor design, poor choice of vegetation, poor maintenance and poor visioning of use. This area will be a high pedestrian traffic area and the green spaces should be a combo of hard surface materials…stone, granite etc. and planters. Lots of benches and provision for art should also be priority. 100% open grass areas with no real theme are a lost opportunity.

HRM Green Space 1:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.6418967,...NTqwgMmXP0Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

HRM Green Space 2:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.6493583,-63.5849543,3a,75y,315h,96.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sz6BhVwTteBNlNUdosVbZww!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

HRM Green Space 3:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.6513608,...zXoil_qUYig!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

HRM Green Space 4:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.7005621,...7cI7TU6AIWg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
atrocious!

excerpt from: https://novascotia.ca/tran/roundabout/roundabout.asp

"Does it matter what goes into the centre of a roundabout?:

Yes. Whatever is placed in the centre of the roundabout is put there to get you to look left. You need to look left, rather than across the circle, to find a safe gap in traffic before you enter the circle.

The landscaping in the centre of a roundabout is, first and foremost, a safety feature. It is there to get you to look left in the direction of oncoming traffic. Good landscaping will block your view across the circle so that you are not distracted by activity there. Instead, you are forced to look left before you enter the circle.

Limiting vision in this way gets you to slow down and watch for a safe gap in traffic before you enter the circle."


(ps: Hi all, new to the forum and this city, very much enjoying living here!)
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atrocious!

excerpt from: https://novascotia.ca/tran/roundabout/roundabout.asp

"Does it matter what goes into the centre of a roundabout?:

Yes. Whatever is placed in the centre of the roundabout is put there to get you to look left. You need to look left, rather than across the circle, to find a safe gap in traffic before you enter the circle.

The landscaping in the centre of a roundabout is, first and foremost, a safety feature. It is there to get you to look left in the direction of oncoming traffic. Good landscaping will block your view across the circle so that you are not distracted by activity there. Instead, you are forced to look left before you enter the circle.

Limiting vision in this way gets you to slow down and watch for a safe gap in traffic before you enter the circle."


(ps: Hi all, new to the forum and this city, very much enjoying living here!)
Welcome 'new2halifax' to Halifax and the Forum. I hope you will stay engaged and be able to bring new ideas to our fair city. Halifax has a very rich past and a promising future. We just can’t lose site of either.

Here is a real roundabout in Lisbon:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7485573,...BmjuvveXJ3g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
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They provide a nice opportunity to add public art and monuments. I thought maybe something like that would happen around North Park.

The good news with the office park style landscaping of the little spit of green space by Cogswell and the middle part of these roundabouts is they're not hard to change. HRM even already has at least one statue in storage.
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They provide a nice opportunity to add public art and monuments. I thought maybe something like that would happen around North Park.

The good news with the office park style landscaping of the little spit of green space by Cogswell and the middle part of these roundabouts is they're not hard to change. HRM even already has at least one statue in storage.
Yes, when the North Park roundabout was constructed directly on the dorstep of the Armouries I thought it was a given to have an appropriate statue / memorial installed there. It isn't too late so maybe it will still happen. There is only so much dead landscaping a city can endure.
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Old Posted Sep 8, 2023, 12:31 AM
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Welcome 'new2halifax' to Halifax and the Forum. I hope you will stay engaged and be able to bring new ideas to our fair city. Halifax has a very rich past and a promising future. We just can’t lose site of either.

Here is a real roundabout in Lisbon:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7485573,...BmjuvveXJ3g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Thank you @Empire. I've been catching up here an there with some of the main threads and I do really enjoy the respectful and insightful discussion. It is very exciting to live in a city with such an explosion of growth and potential to redefine itself.
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HRM has a nice statue of Edward Cornwallis in storage that would look good in the center of a roundabout.
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Yes, when the North Park roundabout was constructed directly on the dorstep of the Armouries I thought it was a given to have an appropriate statue / memorial installed there. It isn't too late so maybe it will still happen. There is only so much dead landscaping a city can endure.
There is that WW2 left over Sherman Tank still around the City somewhere. It used to be on the lower base at Shearwater. Hmmm.
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Anyone knows what's going on the gas station at Inglis St.? It looks like repair/maintenance, but I was hopeful it was going to be replace with high density habitation. It seems a waste to have this one so close to the one at Barrington St. (~500m)
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Anyone knows what's going on the gas station at Inglis St.? It looks like repair/maintenance, but I was hopeful it was going to be replace with high density habitation. It seems a waste to have this one so close to the one at Barrington St. (~500m)
It looks like new tanks and underground infrastructure. That station changed to Irving recently, and there aren't many in the area, so I'd say its there for the long run. Behind on Mitchell street is in the development queue with Dexel though which is very promising.
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Demolition Permit has been submitted for 2688 ROBIE STREET, HALIFAX formerly home to HalCraft Printers. Assuming they own the vacant lot in front (2696 Robie) this means a development area of 19'000 sq ft in Centre-2 zoning. The lot fronts onto Robie Street and King Street.

Building Permit submitted for 507 HERRING COVE ROAD, HALIFAX to allow for a 62-unit, 4-storey residential building. This is 100 metres south of Greystone Drive.

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What height is permitted in this area?
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What height is permitted in this area?
Robie Street's Centre-2 zoning allows for 90 metres so long as the F.A.R. is met. The F.A.R. on the Robie/King/St Albans/North block is 3.5.

19'000 X 3.5 = ~66'500 sq ft building allowed on site.
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Looks like the new developments on Scot/Joe Howe have some signage, including a site. Unfortunately I missed capturing the site name. The Fairway Halifax, or similar.

The "Water views" is kind of hilarious to me. Oooh, the Fairview Cove Terminal and basin! Technically a water view, but desirable? Idk

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Thank you, I wish it was even higher!!!
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