Centennial Mills Redevelopment | Proposed - Page 20

maccoinnich · #**381** Posted **Dec 30, 2022, 10:53 AM**

Notice of a Pre-Application Conference:

https://www.portlandoregon.gov/bds/article/801415

MarkDaMan · #**382** Posted **Dec 30, 2022, 7:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by maccoinnich

Notice of a Pre-Application Conference:

https://www.portlandoregon.gov/bds/article/801415

So looks like the site will be a complete demolition. Disappointing but not surprising.

colossalorder · #**383** Posted **Jan 2, 2023, 12:32 AM**

I was hoping that the development would include a nice pedestrian bridge connection from the fields park to the river walkway. That would be a great addition to improve flow and utility. Its pretty clunky connection right now.

DMH · #**384** Posted **Jan 2, 2023, 4:10 PM**

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I was hoping that the development would include a nice pedestrian bridge connection from the fields park to the river walkway. That would be a great addition to improve flow and utility. Its pretty clunky connection right now.

The concept of a pedestrian crossing from the Fields Park to the Centennial Mills site was in the master plan created by the landscape firm of Peter Walker twenty years ago:
https://www.pwpla.com/projects/portland-riverfront-district-open-space-plan
It still could be realized if the City foots the bill. However if the City is serious about implementing the park master plan, it should require the planning of the riverfront site, obviously with the historic but decrepit mill building removed, to make a place for the pedestrian crossing to lead to a new riverfront walkway that the developer must build. I would suggest that now is the time for us, the interested public, to weigh in as the Design Commission starts reviewing the developer's plan. We should urge the City to require the Mill site development plan to have a proposed pedestrian crossing accommodated.

maccoinnich · #**385** Posted **May 8, 2023, 6:22 PM**

On the Prosper Portland Board agenda this week:

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Action Item: Authorizing a Utility Easement and Amending the Terms of a Disposition and Development Agreement to Convey Approximately 4.4 Acres of Prosper Portland-Owned Property in the River District Tax Increment Finance District

Report 23-10
Resolution 7482

The easement would preclude construction of a high rise structure on the portion of the site closest to NW 9th Ave.

sopdx · #**386** Posted **May 8, 2023, 7:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by maccoinnich

On the Prosper Portland Board agenda this week:

The easement would preclude construction of a high rise structure on the portion of the site closest to NW 9th Ave.

Is this stating that only the southeast section of the property cannot support a structure above 75' due to the installation of PacifiCorp's Willamette cable crossing - and the width of this easement is 29'?

maccoinnich · #**387** Posted **May 8, 2023, 8:18 PM**

I haven't read through this carefully, but while the easement is only 29' wide, its location on the site would likely make it very difficult to development a high-rise where the former stables are located.

FiveOverPun · #**388** Posted **May 8, 2023, 10:21 PM**

Tried to overlay the easement diagram on a map so you can see where it lies. Seems like it's just in the area of the horse track, not where the stables are now.

maccoinnich · #**389** Posted **May 8, 2023, 10:22 PM**

Maybe I misunderstood which building was the stables... I meant the open air structure closest to Waterfront Pearl.

FiveOverPun · #**390** Posted **May 8, 2023, 10:27 PM**

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Maybe I misunderstood which building was the stables... I meant the open air structure closest to Waterfront Pearl.

Yeah, there's that training area, then an enclosed stables building, and then the flour mill. I'm hoping there's still plenty of room to build. I live next door so I've been eagerly awaiting plans and such.

PhillyPDX · #**391** Posted **May 9, 2023, 1:43 PM**

I'm a little curious where else that line goes. The image link above shows it going through the Fields park....So maybe it goes under Pettygrove street and that's why the line isn't an issue for other construction in the area?

I wonder what causes the 75' limit (high rise)? DDA quotes the building code, but that looks like they added it to define "high rise", and doesn't really state the reason for the height limit. I really can't think of why a height limit even matters....you can always reinforce buried utilities supports and/or locate foundations accordingly to not affect underground utilities. If it's for PacifiCorp future access to the lines, the height of construction would be irrelevant.

sopdx · #**392** Posted **Jul 27, 2023, 4:21 PM**

Disappointing

https://www.portlandmaps.com/detail/permit/2023-068440-000-00-EA/4952772_did/

maccoinnich · #**393** Posted **Aug 4, 2023, 7:55 PM**

Centennial Mills is on the Design Commission agenda for 9/21. The link above is now broken, but here's a new link to Portland Maps:

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This project includes three separate 5 story buildings over shared underground parking. The buildings will be mixed use with approximately 277 residential apartment units. The property is bounded by NW Natio and the Willamette River and will include the development of the pedestrian greenway trail.

DMH · #**394** Posted **Aug 5, 2023, 9:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by maccoinnich

Centennial Mills is on the Design Commission agenda for 9/21. The link above is now broken, but here's a new link to Portland Maps:

I am disappointed that the deteriorating Centennial Mills building will be lost but I am not disappointed that the scale of the proposed buildings is pretty low. The development of this property has long been critical for the completion of the vision for the North Pearl. I believe that landscape architect Peter Walker envisioned a pedestrian bridge from the end of the Fields Park over NW Naito Parkway to the Centennial Mills site because it was to be a destination for many pedestrians coming from the Pearl to reach the riverfront. I hope that this design proposal accommodates that vision for a pedestrian connection over the parkway and has active retail (restaurants & bars) uses planned.

maccoinnich · #**395** Posted **Aug 29, 2023, 9:23 PM**

Design Advice Posting Notice

FiveOverPun · #**396** Posted **Aug 29, 2023, 9:33 PM**

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Design Advice Posting Notice

Really excited to see these. Is there a reason they left the existing mill footprint open? (Is that green arrow on the satellite picture an opportunity for the pedestrian bridge we all want to see?)

pdxsg34 · #**397** Posted **Aug 29, 2023, 11:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by FiveOverPun

Really excited to see these. Is there a reason they left the existing mill footprint open? (Is that green arrow on the satellite picture an opportunity for the pedestrian bridge we all want to see?)

Not to sound like a pessimist, but given Sera is the architect, i doubt we'll see anything above average design-wise.

FiveOverPun · #**398** Posted **Sep 14, 2023, 4:26 PM**

Drawings are up! (11mb pdf)

pdxsg34 · #**399** Posted **Sep 14, 2023, 4:34 PM**

Disappointed the retail space is restricted to the Naito side. This is a great opportunity to have a riverfront-facing restaurant or two.

FiveOverPun · #**400** Posted **Sep 14, 2023, 4:45 PM**

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Disappointed the retail space is restricted to the Naito side. This is a great opportunity to have a riverfront-facing restaurant or two.

That was my initial impression, but given there's a large restaurant space at the Sutton next door which still doesn't have a tenant, I'm guessing there's some trepidation there.

The restaurant in the Waterfront Pearl (Poke Maki) also seems pretty empty every time I go by, so I'm wondering if there's just not enough people in the area/reason to go yet to support more.

It feels like there's quite a lot of empty retail in this part of the Pearl.