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Old Posted Sep 11, 2023, 11:25 AM
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Just a reminder of what it used to look like ...
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2023, 6:16 PM
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Gotta find room in the budget for it. The city has a lot of needs, and a lot of these ideas like freeway caps, new airport terminals, new metro lines, completely re-doing Pershing Square, etc. are prohibitively expensive and the money has to come from somewhere.
Agreed - these are high priority things that are much more than new park space or new transportation options. A handful of developments could have a transformational effect on the city and be a catalyst to revive our urban core. They could attract private capital at big multiples that would make the public spending worth it. The freeway caps over the 101 and adjacent to Union Station, a Pershing Square renovation, and truly enhanced public transit (including fixing the E and A lines), could achieve that result. Although the city really needs to address cleanliness, security, and homelessness in Downtown, Hollywood, and on the Metro for growth to continue in those areas.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 12, 2023, 3:45 AM
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Gotta find room in the budget for it. The city has a lot of needs, and a lot of these ideas like freeway caps, new airport terminals, new metro lines, completely re-doing Pershing Square, etc. are prohibitively expensive and the money has to come from somewhere.
Philadelphia is putting in two separate highway caps. If they can do it, we can do it. We also decided to make sure animals could cross highways before humans, perhaps we should have put humans first?
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 12, 2023, 7:17 AM
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Onni's tower is rising fast now and shifting the visual dynamics of this area. My photographic memory; every time I am over there, is hit with that new giant mass that is far and above anything around it



The undulating balconies are evident now



Glass facade is being placed on the ground floor



In other Onni news, they have fully leased the Hope and 12th street sides of their Hope+Flower project with a Coffee shop (not a Starbucks) a fitness studio and one other thing. The flower st side directly facing the Pico Light Rail Station is leased with a CVS and a new Boba place coming soon. Still a few more vacant spaces to lease on this Light rail facing side. How does Onni do it? They are leasing their retail spaces while others sit empty and starting a new tower while others are halting.

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Olympic at Hill Tower

     
     
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Old Posted Sep 12, 2023, 3:34 PM
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I love it! Should be peaking into the skyline in no time!

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Old Posted Sep 12, 2023, 5:23 PM
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Philadelphia is putting in two separate highway caps. If they can do it, we can do it. We also decided to make sure animals could cross highways before humans, perhaps we should have put humans first?
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The clip is short — about 30 seconds — yet it evokes an entire Hollywood history. Posted to Los Angeles Dodgers Aerial Photography, a little-followed account on X, formerly known as Twitter, it opens on an out-of-focus shot of Dodger Stadium, filmed through a rain-slicked helicopter window....The stadium appears as if it’s sitting in the middle of a moat amid Elysian Park’s sparse red-brown hills. Its iconic palm trees jut out of the water like props in a postapocalyptic movie. In the background, the downtown skyline emerges from a pillowy haze.

But to anyone who grew up watching the bombastic disaster flicks of the 1990s and aughts — fare like “Escape From L.A.,” “Independence Day” and “The Day After Tomorrow” — it might have seemed as if some of Hollywood’s prophecies had finally come true. The movie industry’s obsession with Los Angeles’s destruction has made this kind of image a key part of the country’s psyche, after all. In his film essay “Los Angeles Plays Itself,” Thom Andersen argues that, if Hollywood’s obsession with the topic is any indication, the destruction of Greater Los Angeles is one of those widely held fantasies, like the bootstrapping myth, that binds Americans into something like a common purpose. In John Carpenter’s 1996 B-movie classic, “Escape From L.A.,” an earthquake floods the San Fernando Valley and cuts Los Angeles off from the rest of California, turning the city into an island. The nation’s newly elected, fanatically evangelical president condemns all those he considers heathens to life in L.A.

In these movies, Los Angeles represents some moral offense rectified only by the region’s drowning (or burning, or crumbling). When the aliens in “Independence Day” position a ship over the U.S. Bank Tower in downtown Los Angeles, ditsy rooftop revelers gather atop the skyscraper to welcome them — only to become the first of the invaders’ victims, incinerated by a laser beam.

This subgenre suggests that the city is a stand-in for America’s worst tendencies — environmental depredation, materialism, the worship of celebrity, venal capitalism. It’s as if we might exorcise these flaws by ritually punishing L.A. via film. Within the context of Tropical Storm Hilary, X users assimilated that brief stadium clip into a series of disaster narratives that had the yearning quality of wishful thinking. That loosed a cascade of critics. Holier-than-thou urban-planning enthusiasts chirped that the supposed flooding was the city’s comeuppance for its poor land-use policies
Various comments about projs like the revamp of Pershing Sq do make certain ppl sound like dtla...LA...continues to get comeuppance for its land use or devlpt habits that date back over 80 yrs. .
     
     
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Prime above ground retail space is struggling to stay open and leased in downtown, the city definitely shouldn't be building underground retail.

I agree with other posters that it should just be removed (or at least the ramps and the top level to allow for a flat park). The cost of that is very high, but we need to take dramatic measures to put a spark back into Downtown.
I was thinking more along the lines of Grand Central market, not the big box Apple/Nike/etc. crowds. More along the mom/pop, trendy type crowds, mostly food and etc. But its true we've officially dived deep into the world of online shopping it seems, especially with the retail thefts sky high.
     
     
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Thanks to hughfb3 and pwright1 for posting pics of Olympic+Hill.

I know we were all disappointed with the indications that the tower will be shorter than initially announced, but regardless it's still going to make a strong mark and expand the skyline envelope southeastward.
     
     
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Various comments about projs like the revamp of Pershing Sq do make certain ppl sound like dtla...LA...continues to get comeuppance for its land use or devlpt habits that date back over 80 yrs. .
"Supposed flooding"
La had some rain for a day.
The streets were dry by the morning. We had more rain in February.
Anyone saying destruction Is a damn idiot.
     
     
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was it ever confirmed that she got a height reduction ?
     
     
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^ Only based on what is listed by the City as approved elevations on the Planning web site, which list a shorter height of 590 ft. vs. the 760 ft. previously proposed.
     
     
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This vid has changed my opinion of the homeless housing proposed for the old sears bldg southeast of the main part of dtla. I originally didn't know enough about the property's owner to be sure whether he was naive & foolhardy about urban LA's problems or trying to exploit the situation, make a quick buck & cause even worst results.....or what has been going on for yrs.

https://youtu.be/smY5chuHUL4?si=0vTFYeOadoklHJlw

^ If this devlpr manages a homeless proj in the former Sear bldg, he may be less unreliable than city officials & folks who run profitable (for themselves) charitable organizations are who end up making a bad situation even worse.

The city...dtla...is now facing anti urban trends similar to over 40 yrs ago. That's when more & more ppl & businesses wanted to avoid older areas by relocating to the newer burbs or smaller cities. Dirt, crime & homelessness are creating a lot of pressure on dt. Something major has to be done & business-as-usual no longer works. If not, the past 30 to 50 yrs of improving dtla will be lost, just as what's currently going on in sections of san francisco.

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The 62-year-old Shomof bought the 1.6 million-square-foot property in 2013 and boasted to this paper then that he could “develop an entire neighborhood” there. For years, his company promised a mixed-use hipster hub branded as the Mail Order District complete with a food hall, live-work lofts and office space. That plan — which promised to “revitalize” the industrial neighborhood around the Sears building — is still up on the website of the Shomof Group. But when I met Shomof to hear about his new proposal, he had a radically different vision: Convert a concrete icon of L.A.’s Eastside into a full-fledged campus that helps the unhoused.

“I’ve been in L.A. for over 50 years, and I’ve seen homeless here that long,” said the multi-millionaire developer. “It’s time for it to be corrected once and for all. And after I met Bill, I think we’ve found a solution. Here, we can do a miracle.”

In nine acres of undeveloped land surrounding the Sears building, the two say they can house 2,000 people immediately in temporary shelters. On the first floor, Shomof and Taormina would build a one-stop shop for homeless — a pharmacy, a job training center, spaces for dentists and barbers, and even a kennel for pets — to get them off the streets and onto a better path. The second floor would house a medical center and offices for groups across Southern California who deal with homelessness, to foster a collaborative spirit.

Floors 3 through 10 — each the size of 3½ football fields — would hold more than 700 beds apiece in spacious dorm rooms for a total of nearly 5,900 beds in the building, with the capacity for more than 10,000.
To put that number into perspective, the 2021 Housing Inventory County conducted by the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority found that L.A.’s shelter capacity was 14,854 beds. One of the largest homeless facilities in Los Angeles, Union Rescue Mission, can hold about 1,000 people.

Shomof first gained prominence in the 2000s as a downtown Los Angeles developer nicknamed the “King of Spring” for buying and repurposing old commercial buildings. But the neighborhood is also where Shomof says his perspective on homelessness was forever sealed as a teenage immigrant in the 1970s.

According to the proposal he and Taormina crafted, the joint-powers authority that would oversee the Life Rebuilding Center would have to enter into a lease with Shomof of at least 20 years at an annual estimated cost of $23.3 million. At that rate, Shomof would easily earn back his investment before the lease was up.

Shomof justified the rent as a bargain for taxpayers in a city where a 2020 city controller audit said the price of a single unit of housing for the homeless was $531,000. A city where last fall, construction began on a 19-story tower in skid row that will eventually host 382 units. The cost of the first phase, according to my colleague Doug Smith? $160 million.

     
     
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Wow, I could 12 floors already. This thing is flying up!
     
     
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Wow, 2 floors in 6 days ??? nice. Heres Hoping they start on the Times Twins when this tops out.
     
     
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^ Only based on what is listed by the City as approved elevations on the Planning web site, which list a shorter height of 590 ft. vs. the 760 ft. previously proposed.
That's a huge let down. There aren't many skyscrapers being built up here in the Bay and the prospect of a tower this tall was exciting...really unfortunate it got reduced. At least its still happening along with the Century City Center, can't say the same for some of the buildings in San Francisco.
     
     
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Can someone PLEASE approach one of the workers and ask if this building is 590 or 760? Surely they have blueprints.
     
     
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