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Old Posted Aug 24, 2023, 1:42 PM
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Mayor stands by city's QED data, despite issues raised in internal emails
Message from NCC manager mentioned 'methodological errors' in Ottawa report

Dan Taekema · CBC News
Posted: Aug 24, 2023 4:00 AM EDT | Last Updated: 5 hours ago


Ottawa's mayor is doubling down on city data showing limited pedestrian and cyclist use of the Queen Elizabeth Driveway, despite internal emails in which the National Capital Commission suggests "miscalculations" were made.

"I stand by what I've said all along," Mark Sutcliffe told reporters following Wednesday's council meeting, adding he believes the statistics were "collected effectively."

His comments follow a report by PressProgress, quoting communications obtained thought a freedom of information request, where the NCC raised issues with numbers gathered by the city on "active use" of a two-kilometre stretch of the parkway.

The city provided a copy of the internal emails to CBC Wednesday evening.

In a May 1 email, a manager with the NCC said the organization's staff had reviewed a city report published in April about impacts of the QED closure.

The manager wrote that some parts of the report "should be re-examined" and provided a list of general topics to discuss, including "methodological errors," potential "miscalculations" and a "misrepresentation" of the active user analysis.

Phil Landry, the city's director of traffic services, said in an email to CBC that staff responded to the NCC saying the document was an "operational report" and "limited to a reporting and analysis strictly of the data collected."

The city stands by the report and its methodology, he said.

The NCC did not respond directly to a question asking which specific issues its staff raised about the city's reporting.

Instead, a spokesperson wrote in an email that nearly 74,000 people have visited the stretch of QED since May and that discussions with the city are ongoing.

The NCC said it's also gathering additional data and is carrying out a public survey during the current season, which will inform the future of its active use initiatives.

The program sees both lanes of the QED along the Rideau Canal closed to motor vehicles between Fifth Avenue and Somerset Street from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. from July 1 to Sept. 4.

From May 31 to June 25 and Sept. 9 to Oct. 9 the shutdown only happens on weekends and holiday Mondays.

Sutcliffe said he isn't against closures on weekends, evenings or holidays, but he does disagree with the NCC on the exact schedule.

Questioned Wednesday about the city's data, he took aim at the Crown corporation.

When the city was first approached about closing part of the parkway, the mayor said, staff told the NCC it would be "problematic for traffic" — especially during peak times — but it went ahead with the closure anyway.

"I would ask the NCC why there has not been more cooperation on this," he said.

Debate around the QED hit another gear after Sutcliffe posted a video on social media on Aug. 9.

In it, he stood on the road and told the camera very few cyclists and pedestrians were taking advantage of the closure, and the pathway along the canal could easily accommodate that traffic.

The result of the closure to cars, Sutcliffe said, is congestion on neighbourhood streets that makes it difficult for drivers — including emergency vehicles.

"Think about the number of cars that are displaced every single minute so that one or two cyclists can use the road instead of the pathway," he says in the video.

In his comments Wednesday, the mayor lamented about the state of the conversation around the QED, saying he's in favour of creating more cyclist and pedestrian-friendly areas.

"I think there has unfortunately become a bit of a ... cars versus bicycle element to this discussion. It's not about that at all," he told reporters. "The discussion is about where is the best place to create more space for cyclists."

Neil Saravanamuttoo, who helped promote a mass bike ride on the QED following Sutcliffe's video, said he uses the stretch of road nearly every day and sees plenty of cyclists, joggers and wheelchair users taking advantage of the active use program.

He questioned whether the city is undercounting in its data and asked why staff have seemingly refused to work with the NCC to get the most accurate data possible.

Saravanamuttoo, who is also deputy director of a non-profit founded by Sutcliffe's main opponent in the 2022 election, hopes the program continues.

"I hope the NCC is going to stand their ground on this one," he said. "This has become such a valuable space for people."

With files from Guy Quenneville

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...-ncc-1.6944962
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2023, 2:56 PM
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This has moved way past the point of an embarrassing obsession by the mayor. Now it's just weird. We have way bigger issues in this city.
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I personally think that the Queen Elisabeth Parkway should be used for a tramway between Preston and Pretoria Bridge. This would be part of a Carling tramway starting at Bayshore station, and ending at the North Portion of Elgin St.

Then we would be done with this car argument debate on the parkway. We can keep Colonel By for cars/ ceremonial route. We would be providing solid public transportation between the heart of downtown, Lansdowne, the hospital, and an area of the city increasing in density. I'm sure this development could be paired with proper MUP infrastructure along the same axis.
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What happens when Mark Sutcliffe's Queen Elizabeth Drive data gets driven too far?
Ottawa's mayor repeatedly touts the importance of making data-informed decisions. He shouldn't mislead the public with bad data on the QED debate

Bruce Deachman, Ottawa Citizen
Published Aug 28, 2023 • Last updated 4 hours ago • 4 minute read


The NCC will soon reopen Queen Elizabeth Drive to motor traffic on weekdays, a move that should temporarily cool the heated debate that Ottawans have been engaged in over the inconvenience/opportunity (choose one) that the road closure has caused/provided (again, pick one).

The NCC’s Active Use Program has reserved the 2.4-km stretch of QED between Somerset Street West and Fifth Avenue for pedestrians, runners, cyclists, skateboarders and the like from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m., seven days a week, since July 1. After Labour Day and until Thanksgiving, motorized vehicles will continue to be prohibited during those hours on weekends and holiday Mondays only. After that, and presumably till next May, it’ll be back to cars 24/7. And then, well, hopefully the NCC and city will have collected and analyzed enough data on the program to decide whether or not it should continue next year.

Ottawa Mayor Mark Sutcliffe and NCC boss Tobi Nussbaum have locked horns over the issue, including in competing op-eds in this paper. More recently, in a video posted a couple of weeks ago on social media, the mayor urged the NCC to at least reopen the 0.9-km portion of QED running through the Glebe, from Pretoria to Fifth. In support of his argument, Sutcliffe noted that during the video’s two-and-a-half minutes — it was recorded on a cloudy weekday afternoon when the probability of precipitation was forecast at 90 per cent — no cyclists or pedestrians had passed by him.

For a mayor who has repeatedly touted the importance of making data-informed decisions, Sutcliffe’s 150-second analysis seemed ludicrous. If the entire Tour de France had, by chance, passed him then, would his opinion have changed? Or would he simply have waited until they were out of sight to reshoot the video?

More troubling, though, was the data Sutcliffe presented in an infographic at the end of the video. Actually, it wasn’t the “new information” itself that was concerning — that was just data, after all — but rather how he used it to further an argument and conclusion that it didn’t in itself really support. As Benjamin Disraeli/Mark Twain (choose, one, neither or both) said, there are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. This falls into the third category.

In July 2019, according to Sutcliffe’s info, 3,144 cyclists used the QED pathway each day. In 2023, though, only 1,866 used the pathway and driveway, combined. By that metric, Sutcliffe’s contention that the QED’s closure wasn’t accomplishing what it intended made a lot of sense. If 40 per cent fewer active users were actually out there now than were four years ago, surely the path alone could accommodate them all, right?

Absolutely, if the data sets were large enough to give a broad picture, and if they represented similar conditions in 2019 and 2023.

But guess what? They didn’t.

First of all, the totals from both years are from just three days of data, hardly enough to claim that either fairly represents the month as a whole. As time frames go, in fact, they’re actually closer to 2-1/2 minutes than a full month. But at least they’re the same length as one another, right?

Oh, wait. Turns out they’re not.

The cycling data from this year shows the number of cyclists who used the path and road during the 12 hours each day that the QED was closed to cars. The data from 2019 counted all cyclists who used the pathway over the full 24 hours each day. Additionally, the 2019 numbers were collected using counters, just north of the Canal Ritz, that recognize the metal in bicycles, as well as in, according to the city, most large-wheeled strollers, wheelchairs, mobility scooters, skateboards and roller-bladers, all of which would be counted as cyclists. The 2023 numbers were collected using a camera near Linden Terrace.

This is probably not a good time to mention that there was also a typo in the city’s calculation Sutcliffe presented: the average number of daily cyclists using the path in 2019 was 3,114, not 3,144. I know, it’s hardly worth quibbling over 30 cyclists, and I wouldn’t normally. But, you know, statistics.

OK, OK, so the data set was small and collected at different locations using different methods. One set includes numbers that came from 72 hours of traffic, while the other only included half of that time frame. But everything else was apples-to-apples, right?

Well, no. Not the weather.

From July 23-25, 2019, when higher numbers better support Sutcliffe’s argument, Ottawans enjoyed three mighty fine days, according to Environment Canada. Temperatures ranged from 12 to 25C on two of those days, and 15 to 29C on the third. There was no rain. The Humidex only exceeded 27 once, on the third day, when it hit 32. Pretty good days to go cycling, I’d say.

Contrast that with July 25 to 27, 2023, when we saw rain on two of the days, slightly warmer temperatures on two (highs each day in the 26 to 28C range), and a Humidex that eclipsed 30 every day, including highs of 35 and 37. Maybe not so amenable to cycling.

There are certainly many points Sutcliffe can make to support his argument against closing the QED on weekdays. It is inconvenient, both to motorists and many nearby residents. And there is an adjacent path that people can use.

But for a so-called data-driven mayor to present statistics in the way he has is simply disingenuous/disingenuous (choose one).

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...driven-too-far
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I personally think that the Queen Elisabeth Parkway should be used for a tramway between Preston and Pretoria Bridge. This would be part of a Carling tramway starting at Bayshore station, and ending at the North Portion of Elgin St.

Then we would be done with this car argument debate on the parkway. We can keep Colonel By for cars/ ceremonial route. We would be providing solid public transportation between the heart of downtown, Lansdowne, the hospital, and an area of the city increasing in density. I'm sure this development could be paired with proper MUP infrastructure along the same axis.
We really don't have to wait for some stellar conjunction of political will and funding for a tram.

We can put transit on the QED now in the form of buses.
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This has moved way past the point of an embarrassing obsession by the mayor. Now it's just weird. We have way bigger issues in this city.
I mean yes and no. It's a great way to virtue signal to the car crowd without having to actually change any policies. Also if it's no big deal either way the NCC could give in just as easily.
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We really don't have to wait for some stellar conjunction of political will and funding for a tram.

We can put transit on the QED now in the form of buses.
Agreed. A Carling/QED tram would be great, but that's decades away, if ever (Carling, at least). For now, I'd love to see buses use QED as a Transitway (if not Bank bus lanes). I'm sure there's enough space to widen the Canal pathways, separate cycling from peds, even if QED isn't fully eliminated.
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I'm sure there's enough space to widen the Canal pathways, separate cycling from peds, even if QED isn't fully eliminated.
I don’t know that widening the multi-use path would be simple without reconfiguring the road and losing a lot of trees. There are trees almost right against the MUP for most of its length, the bridge over Patterson Creek and tunnel under Pretoria bridge are quite narrow, the MUP is built right against the QED near Lansdowne, and there is a large retaining wall between Bronson and Bank where the QED is built much higher than the MUP. There are likely other problem areas too.
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Agreed. A Carling/QED tram would be great, but that's decades away, if ever (Carling, at least). For now, I'd love to see buses use QED as a Transitway (if not Bank bus lanes). I'm sure there's enough space to widen the Canal pathways, separate cycling from peds, even if QED isn't fully eliminated.
QED transit isn't a fallback in case the half-assed Bank Street bus lanes don't see the light of day, though. It can stand on its own merits.
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QED transit isn't a fallback in case the half-assed Bank Street bus lanes don't see the light of day, though. It can stand on its own merits.
Exactly. Bank Street and QED serve two completely different transit markets.

I think it is already too late to consider QED for transit. The decision is already pretty well caste in stone, that there will be summer closures. Let's face it. This is not about transportation but recreation. Oh yeah, some will use it for transportation, but for the majority it will be for a casual spin or a stroll. That has always been the case for the QED MUP, having ridden it countless times for recreation.
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I don’t know that widening the multi-use path would be simple without reconfiguring the road and losing a lot of trees.
Ditto with reconfiguring the car path itself. If there is to be any change, major or minor, in how the QED is used, there are some pretty tight constraints on how much the physical infrastructure itself can be changed.
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I think it is already too late to consider QED for transit. The decision is already pretty well caste in stone, that there will be summer closures.
And that is exactly why some folks have been so hot to trot on the summer "openings". They hate buses.
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And that is exactly why some folks have been so hot to trot on the summer "openings". They hate buses.
I'm sure you will get a bunch of people protesting buses, but I'm not sure they will carry the day here. It's pretty hard to oppose transit (especially electric transit) and yet be in favour of continued use as a busy commuter road for cars.

I'm not convinced that closures are a foregone conclusion. The NCC definitely wants to rebalance use away from car commuters, but I could see several possible outcomes, including the closure of Colonel By. In my experience, the people in favour of active use aren't necessarily opposed to transit. If it is sold as a quick and easy way to dramatically improve travel times and improve access to Lansdowne and the new hospital, it has a definite chance from a political perspective.
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I'm sure you will get a bunch of people protesting buses, but I'm not sure they will carry the day here. It's pretty hard to oppose transit (especially electric transit) and yet be in favour of continued use as a busy commuter road for cars.

I'm not convinced that closures are a foregone conclusion. The NCC definitely wants to rebalance use away from car commuters, but I could see several possible outcomes, including the closure of Colonel By. In my experience, the people in favour of active use aren't necessarily opposed to transit. If it is sold as a quick and easy way to dramatically improve travel times and improve access to Lansdowne and the new hospital, it has a definite chance from a political perspective.
Closing Colonel By was a promise made by Naqvi during the last Federal campaign. He never spoke of it again after being elected.
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In my experience, the people in favour of active use aren't necessarily opposed to transit.
There is a major overlap of those Venn circles, though.
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There is a major overlap of those Venn circles, though.
More than for people who exclusively drive for transportation? I doubt that.
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There is a major overlap of those Venn circles, though.
Only because those are the people always forced against one another. It should really be bike/transit groups against general traffic, instead it always comes down to bikes vs buses fighting for scraps.
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The implication that evil drivers only drive. 'Groups' imply advocacy groups. Just like community associations with specific agendas, they don't represent everybody who they claim to represent. This is why we end up with drivers versus transit versus cyclists. As Uhuniau points out, there is a significant overlap between all groups. The overlapping groups are not always well represented, because their hybrid viewpoint is not pure enough.
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The implication that evil drivers only drive. 'Groups' imply advocacy groups. Just like community associations with specific agendas, they don't represent everybody who they claim to represent. This is why we end up with drivers versus transit versus cyclists. As Uhuniau points out, there is a significant overlap between all groups. The overlapping groups are not always well represented, because their hybrid viewpoint is not pure enough.
No one is saying drivers are evil, but the group who primarily/exclusively drives in this city dwarfs all of the other groups combined and its political clout is obvious - just take a look at Ottawa's sprawly cityscape. While every advocacy group is fueled by a healthy dose of self interest, the impact of the drivers' self interest in advocating for road space has a much more negative impact on urbanism in general and the central neighbourhoods in particular. Transit and cycling advocates may be self-interested, but their self interest is much more compatible with vibrant urban neighbourhoods, good environmental practices and mobility for the whole population.
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There is no overlap. Every cycling advocate I know, on twitter and in real life, supports transit. Must be something personal.
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