Edmonton Public Transit

[Coldrsx]

Makes sense given current real estate values and their significant expansion plans.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by stefanYEG

MacEwan just bought the land on the corner of 105 street and 105 Ave. Former Chintz & Co./Wonder Harbour.

Great news, I can see them continuing to acquire parcels to the north as their scope expands.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Black Star

I wish there was more. Or underpasses. At grade will be a gong show.

Would've been nice for sure, at least they came back and decided to build the overpass over 178 St.

I remember the 149 St. grade separation options were very expensive, but would've been nice to have one (likely a rail underpass) there as well.

[Coldrsx]

149th should have been grade separated.

[stilicho]

Originally Posted by Black Star

I wish there was more. Or underpasses. At grade will be a gong show.

Even without a train running amok through the intersection at 109 St and 104 Ave it statistically suffers one of the highest collision rates in the city. That crossing will have to be rebuilt within two years of opening.

It's indicative that one of the Marigold partners has expertise in grade separation.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by stilicho

Even without a train running amok through the intersection at 109 St and 104 Ave it statistically suffers one of the highest collision rates in the city. That crossing will have to be rebuilt within two years of opening.

It's indicative that one of the Marigold partners has expertise in grade separation.

Considering there isn't much work at that location other than some early utility relocations, I wonder if a grade separation could still be added now, with an obvious budget adjustment from Council?

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by stilicho

Even without a train running amok through the intersection at 109 St and 104 Ave it statistically suffers one of the highest collision rates in the city. That crossing will have to be rebuilt within two years of opening.

It's indicative that one of the Marigold partners has expertise in grade separation.

I think after the train goes in and new lights are put up you'd only be able to turn left on a designated signal, no lefts on red. Should clean up a lot of crash hazards - they should do that in most busy intersections.

[s211]

Originally Posted by Harrison

Considering there isn't much work at that location other than some early utility relocations, I wonder if a grade separation could still be added now, with an obvious budget adjustment from Council?

Didn't the planner responsible at the city refuse to grade-separate? I seem to recall mention that they want the threat of bottle-necked road transportation to force people onto transit? I'm 99% sure from earlier threads that this is the case.

[Edmontonguy]

It's a absolute travesty that 109/ 104 is not grade separated. I observed the 90 degree turn in Strathearn when train testing was mirroring the daily run and there was a long line of cars trying to head south but held up by the train crossing.

with 109 as the major N/S corridor that bypasses the CBD, the Valley line at grade will create terrible back-ups.

One can only weep at how expensive it will be to fix.

I do not understand this ideology over low floor. It's slow, will have limited capacity and is operationally more expensive than a driverless system.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by Edmontonguy

It's a absolute travesty that 109/ 104 is not grade separated. I observed the 90 degree turn in Strathearn when train testing was mirroring the daily run and there was a long line of cars trying to head south but held up by the train crossing.

with 109 as the major N/S corridor that bypasses the CBD, the Valley line at grade will create terrible back-ups.

One can only weep at how expensive it will be to fix.

I do not understand this ideology over low floor. It's slow, will have limited capacity and is operationally more expensive than a driverless system.

Wouldn't those cars before the LRT line just be held up heading south by the traffic lights at 95th Ave that have always been there? Was the train going "testing speed"? can't imagine the light duration being longer to let a train turn than it would have been to let traffic through on 95th.

[Coldrsx]

'opening soon'


https://twitter.com/funkyneurotic/status/1699480894610796668

[Black Star]

Of course no date specified by the city.......

I was hoping the opening would coincide with the first day of school. Swing, and another miss.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Black Star

Of course no date specified by the city.......

I was hoping the opening would coincide with the first day of school. Swing, and another miss.

They say 'this fall', so technically they have until December 20th to be accurate lol.

[Coldrsx]

Valley Line Southeast LRT – Update – Performance Demonstration Testing and Service Commencement

TransEd, the company responsible for the design, build, operations and maintenance of the Edmonton Valley Line Southeast LRT, is pleased to provide an update on the project.

As previously announced, testing identified cables that needed to be replaced to improve long-term system reliability. Today, we are pleased to announce cable replacement is complete, and line-wide train testing has resumed. “Replacement of the cables over the past nine weeks ensures the system will operate safely and reliably over the next 30 years,” says Dallas Lindskoog, TransEd spokesperson.

Concurrent with this upgrade, TransEd has continued to finalize and submit the required documentation for review by the independent certifiers who need to sign off on the system before the line can open for passenger service. In the next few weeks, trains will operate along the entire 13km, mimicking regular passenger service to demonstrate to the certifiers and the City that the Valley Line Southeast LRT is ready to open. We continue to work closely with the City, and more information about the opening date this fall will be provided as final testing and independent certification nears completion.

https://transedlrt.ca/updates/september-7-2023-news-release/

[Black Star]

Originally Posted by Harrison

They say 'this fall', so technically they have until December 20th to be accurate lol.

lol...

[EdmTrekker]

"Fall. The autumn months in Edmonton (September, October, and November), are a time of change; temperatures start to cool, and the days grow shorter. During September, there will be many days that reach to around 20°C, but by November, daily temperatures will likely hover around 0°C to 5°C."

Weather in Edmonton | University of Alberta International
https://www.ualberta.ca/international/in...0protect%20yourself.-,Fall,C%20to%205°C.

[Black Star]

Comparison table: meteorological Autumn vs. astronomical Autumn
Dates shown apply to the Northern Hemisphere and are based on UTC (GMT)

Autumn Start Mete­oro­logi­cal Sept 1 2023

Autumn End Mete­oro­logi­cal Novem­ber 30 2023

Autumn Start Astro­nomi­cal Septem­ber 21 to 24 2023

Autumn End Astro­nomi­cal Decem­ber 21 2023

[stilicho]

Originally Posted by Edmontonguy

It's a absolute travesty that 109/ 104 is not grade separated. I observed the 90 degree turn in Strathearn when train testing was mirroring the daily run and there was a long line of cars trying to head south but held up by the train crossing.

with 109 as the major N/S corridor that bypasses the CBD, the Valley line at grade will create terrible back-ups.

One can only weep at how expensive it will be to fix.

I do not understand this ideology over low floor. It's slow, will have limited capacity and is operationally more expensive than a driverless system.

I asked exactly these questions at engagement events as far back as 2018 when I returned to Edmonton to live. I was assured that the plans as exhibited were "drafts" only and that modifications would absolutely take into account these reasonable concerns.

Then, of course, they ignored everything and ploughed ahead.

Once you get further west along 104 Avenue and into Stony Plain Road you will find more blockades including the point at which the motorway becomes one lane in each direction where the "elbow" occurs. That "elbow", by the way, appears on surveys going back to the nineteenth century due to a ravine offshoot of the former creek that ran down what's now Groat Road. The "elbow" was never fixed as the city grew and buildings now occupy what should have been a uniformly widened road.

But we digress. I'm sure everybody's going to ditch their cars once the EV revolution overtakes us in 2035. And, boy, that seven year projection for the completion of the line is looking mighty ambitious.

[snowman123]

Wow, art and picnic tables that will solve those issues. I wonder how AB taxpayers will feel about that.

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/new-officer-...dmonton-transit-safety-project-1.6561835

[RetiredGuy]

Originally Posted by snowman123

Wow, art and picnic tables that will solve those issues. I wonder how AB taxpayers will feel about that.

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/new-officer-...dmonton-transit-safety-project-1.6561835

I don't have a problem with this decision. I think it is being proactive. With the Valley line opening up soon..ish, Churchill will become busier and a more police/peace officer presence in the area can only help.