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Old Posted Aug 22, 2023, 6:21 PM
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are you suggesting that people in Ottawa aren't familiar with "Corso Italia"???
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It isn't an official street name, so yes, some people will be clueless. But that isn't the only one.
Ultimately, Gladstone would have been the obvious choice instead of digging up dirt on its namesake in order to erase him from a station (but not the street or the "Village", yet). That said, Corso Italia is the name given to Preston, so Via Marconi, the name given to Gladstone, would have been more accurate.

Sometime street names should just be street names. Same with cities, regions or whatever. If everyone forgot who these places were named for, why do we have to ruin it by digging up the past and adding confusion.
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Our recent habit of naming stations for political or other weird reasons instead of immediate geographical landmarks that even local residents will have a hard time figuring out.
Would you be in favour of a "Claudette Cain Station"?
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Old Posted Aug 22, 2023, 6:35 PM
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Ultimately, Gladstone would have been the obvious choice instead of digging up dirt on its namesake in order to erase him from a station (but not the street or the "Village", yet). That said, Corso Italia is the name given to Preston, so Via Marconi, the name given to Gladstone, would have been more accurate.

Sometime street names should just be street names. Same with cities, regions or whatever. If everyone forgot who these places were named for, why do we have to ruin it by digging up the past and adding confusion.
I am sure Marconi also did something bad in his lifetime.
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Old Posted Aug 22, 2023, 6:39 PM
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Ultimately, Gladstone would have been the obvious choice instead of digging up dirt on its namesake in order to erase him from a station (but not the street or the "Village", yet). That said, Corso Italia is the name given to Preston, so Via Marconi, the name given to Gladstone, would have been more accurate.

Sometime street names should just be street names. Same with cities, regions or whatever. If everyone forgot who these places were named for, why do we have to ruin it by digging up the past and adding confusion.
I find it funny. Nobody leads a perfect life, and no politician offers perfect leadership. Has Preston's namesake been discredited too? I can't keep up with all the dirt that is being dug up. I guess people have nothing better to do, and so many people are so easily offended.
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are you suggesting that people in Ottawa aren't familiar with "Corso Italia"???
That name is like nails on a chalkboard for me. (For those of us who remember chalkboards.) I refuse to recognize it.
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Old Posted Aug 22, 2023, 6:43 PM
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I am sure Marconi also did something bad in his lifetime.
Oh boy, you'd better believe it. There's an entire section of his Wikipedia dedicated to his role in fascist Italy, assuming this the the Marconi Gladstone is named for.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guglielmo_Marconi
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That said, Corso Italia is the name given to Preston, so Via Marconi, the name given to Gladstone, would have been more accurate.
Via Manconi after everyone's favourite OC General Manager
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I find it funny. Nobody leads a perfect life, and no politician offers perfect leadership. Has Preston's namesake been discredited too? I can't keep up with all the dirt that is being dug up. I guess people have nothing better to do, and so many people are so easily offended.
Sergeant Preston of the Yukon?

Wasn't he with the RCMP? And the RCMP was and is racist and colonialist, so... cancel away!
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Corso Italia station is right in line with the old alignment of Champagne Avenue. "Champagne Station" could have popped
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Would you be in favour of a "Claudette Cain Station"?
Well, she already has a park named after her. I have met her a few times and she seemed to be a nice person.
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Corso Italia station is right in line with the old alignment of Champagne Avenue. "Champagne Station" could have popped
That would have been nice.

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Well, she already has a park named after her. I have met her a few times and she seemed to be a nice person.
When has that stopped anyone? John A. Macdonald, William Commanda, Kitchissippi/Kìchì Sìbì/Kichi Zībī, Vimy...
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"two stations awaiting hydro connections"

The funny part of that statement is that delay is likely the cities fault as the delay in Hookup is likely due to Hydro Ottawa being on strike.
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That would have been nice.



When has that stopped anyone? John A. Macdonald, William Commanda, Kitchissippi/Kìchì Sìbì/Kichi Zībī, Vimy...
I thought we weren't supposed to use similar sounding names. I guess there are exceptions to the rule.
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Man, I remember how a 3 year closure way back when was unnecessary and unacceptable. Will the Trillium Line re-open by the 4th anniversary? My last drive out to Bowesville and Limebank showed station accesses were not anywhere close to ready.
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Man, I remember how a 3 year closure way back when was unnecessary and unacceptable. Will the Trillium Line re-open by the 4th anniversary? My last drive out to Bowesville and Limebank showed station accesses were not anywhere close to ready.
That's just pouring concrete and asphalt. That won't take that long at all, though I'm surprised they haven't finished that by now. The stations themselves seem complete
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Hydro Ottawa strike holds up work on 2 Trillium Line stations
City to rely on 'very large generator' as short-term fix

Arthur White-Crummey · CBC News
Posted: Aug 30, 2023 4:00 AM EDT | Last Updated: 5 hours ago


The two-month-old Hydro Ottawa strike is interfering with work on the Trillium rail line to Ottawa's south end as two stations lack permanent power connections.

City staff are still hoping the line will be ready by the end of the year, but with no power at Dow's Lake and South Keys stations, they will have to rely on a "very large generator" as they get them ready for the public.

"Really the holdup here is to get that permanent power so we can continue commissioning of the station," said Michael Morgan, director of the city's rail construction program.

"We had some mitigation measures, in terms of putting up a temporary generator that we can use to commission the electrical systems, but at the end of the day, to put a system into service, we want permanent power to the stations."

Kitchissippi Coun. Jeff Leiper called it "the one concerning thing" he heard during Tuesday's LRT sub-committee meeting, which outlined progress on the Trillium Line as well as the east and west extensions of the Confederation Line.

The timeline for contractor TransitNEXT to hand over the Trillium Line to the city is late 2023, following delays partly related to slow progress on signal testing.

Morgan said that work is being powered separately and is not affected by the strike.

It is unclear who will pay for the generator and how much it will cost. As of now, there is no decision on whether more than one generator will be needed.

The union representing Hydro Ottawa workers who've been on strike since the end of June said this could all be avoided with a deal at the bargaining table.

"The city wants to get these projects rolling, and once our folks get back, we'll make up time," said Mike Hall, business representative for International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local 636.

He said running a generator on that scale can't come cheap.

"I worked in the industry long enough to know this isn't your hand-held Honda generator we're talking about here," said Hall.

"It takes a lot of work to set these up, lots of money invested, and it would be far better off to get the permanent install done right away."

Hall sees some reason for optimism as the parties negotiate under non-binding mediation. He said each side made two offers in a meeting last week.

"The day started out great," said Hall. "Of course, the goal of a mediator is to get both sides to move a little bit, and he certainly did. Both sides did move."

He said the union was originally pushing for a 16-per-cent wage increase over a four-year deal, while the company was at 13. Now that gap has narrowed to 15 and 14 per cent, according to Hall.

"We're one per cent apart — it's not far," he said.

Hall said wages are now the only outstanding issue in the dispute. "We have a tentative agreement on everything else," he said. Hydro Ottawa broke off negotiations, according to Hall, while the union remains ready to bargain.

Hydro Ottawa spokesperson Josée Larocque said talks were paused after the union declined to bring the company's "very fair and competitive" sixth overall offer to its full membership for a vote.

The company's offer actually works out to 14.74 per cent when compounded over the term of the agreement, she said.

"As a private company who provides an essential public service, Hydro Ottawa is heavily regulated and is required to act in the public's interest," she said.

"That includes negotiating a balanced and responsible agreement which recognizes its employees' contributions and the impact on our customers' electricity rates."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/hydro-ottawa-strike-trillium-line-construction-open-1.6950911
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2023, 2:21 PM
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Year and a half late on what's essentially a very simple project is maddening. When looking at progress east-west compared to this, it's incomprehensible. Worse is that the City did not include a clause in the contract asking for the original O-Train segment be prioritized.

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Interesting tidbit: the latest OC Transpo Network Map has the O-Train Line 2 extension and Line 4 outlined as future lines/stations that are under construction:

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Has any proposal of the revised bus network been made public for areas affected by Trillium Line Phase 2? You would think there would be an opportunity for public feedback.
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Has any proposal of the revised bus network been made public for areas affected by Trillium Line Phase 2? You would think there would be an opportunity for public feedback.
The planned changes were made public a few months ago.

The bus network is remaining unchanged for the first winter (with the exception of the 74 returning to Riverview and the 99 serving Limebank).

Afterwards, the 97 will be cut and replaced with supplemental trips on the 98, and the 99 will be cut back to end at Limebank. Everything else remains unchanged.
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