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Old Posted Sep 4, 2021, 5:03 AM
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My thoughts exactly. If staff don't like it they can move on. They work for us and they can be replaced.
It's about the toxic workplace of city hall where council constantly disrespects staff in such a way that is not acceptable in a professional environment.
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It's about the toxic workplace of city hall where council constantly disrespects staff in such a way that is not acceptable in a professional environment.
It no different than any workplace. The bosses, in this case councilors make the final decisions. If people can't handle their bosses making decisions without getting upset or depressed they might want to try out self employment. Staff are there to advise council or management, they can take that advice or reject it as they please. In the real world you do what your told or you move on.
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It no different than any workplace. The bosses, in this case councilors make the final decisions. If people can't handle their bosses making decisions without getting upset or depressed they might want to try out self employment. Staff are there to advise council or management, they can take that advice or reject it as they please. In the real world you do what your told or you move on.
It's a known fact that city hall in Hamilton is one of the most toxic workplaces in the city. There is a well documented and public examples of bad behaviour toward staff, being rude to them, and being forced to do and deal with things that they shouldn't. Having spoken to staff from Hamilton, Burlington, Oakville, Waterloo and Toronto, is clear to me that probably the best city to work for in terms of a respectful environment is Waterloo, and worst is Hamilton. This isn't a single incident, this is another item along a long list of people's work being tossed out as not important. That's a 1950s way of thinking of work, and is completely incompatible with today's work culture. If this is the way you work in your professional workplace then I advise you to move jobs because that is an incredibly bad for your health workplace.
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From what I’ve heard some of the worst municipalities to work for are Stouffville, Burlington, Richmond Hill, and Hamilton. Burlington and Stouffville have very difficult mayors to deal with and Hamilton and Richmond Hill are full of challenging councillors.

Toronto has a few painful councillors too but they are less common.

Burlington’s problem is the mayor basically wants to ban new development in the town and that puts planners in a very challenging position, Stouffville mayor is off his rocker entirely and is very egocentric, Richmond hill has some councillors that love to grandstand and have corruption issues, and Hamilton, well, it’s Hamilton.
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From what I’ve heard some of the worst municipalities to work for are Stouffville, Burlington, Richmond Hill, and Hamilton. Burlington and Stouffville have very difficult mayors to deal with and Hamilton and Richmond Hill are full of challenging councillors.

Toronto has a few painful councillors too but they are less common.

Burlington’s problem is the mayor basically wants to ban new development in the town and that puts planners in a very challenging position, Stouffville mayor is off his rocker entirely and is very egocentric, Richmond hill has some councillors that love to grandstand and have corruption issues, and Hamilton, well, it’s Hamilton.
In Marianne Meed Ward's defence, that's exactly what she campaigned on. The citizens of Burlington don't want Burlington turning into a Mississauga or Oakville, and they voted her in on that exact understanding.
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It's apparently not just council meddling in Hamilton, but a legacy of poor staff management and leaders who get away with it.

Anecdotally, I know of two people who left senior positions because of issues and stress caused by the behaviours of their superiors.
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Taken September 4, 2021.

Figured I should grab a picture of this lot before the imminent groundbreaking...

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I guess we can show this as "Under Construction".
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Great to hear. Worth noting the new render in the bottom right corner.
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The good news is that this will provide another 635 units for downtown, or about 1,000 additional people.
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I like it.
Great location, great added density and decent looking enough build.

Downtown is gonna look so good in 5-10 years.
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I noticed the tent there today, was wondering what that was about. Great news!
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That rendering looks good.
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Is this condos or rentals?
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Given that we never saw any presales for this building and there is a lack of renderings, it's likely rental apartments. Probably high end ones, similar to Colbalt.

I've wondered why Hamilton sees so many new builds end up being rental apartments instead of condos. I guess it just isn't a mature enough or desired enough market quite yet to attract buyers to justify condo builds. Hoping we see a shift in the coming years.
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Given that we never saw any presales for this building and there is a lack of renderings, it's likely rental apartments. Probably high end ones, similar to Colbalt.

I've wondered why Hamilton sees so many new builds end up being rental apartments instead of condos. I guess it just isn't a mature enough or desired enough market quite yet to attract buyers to justify condo builds. Hoping we see a shift in the coming years.
I can think of two major reasons why Liuna is building rentals over market units.

1) The complete removal of rent controls (which I agree with in theory, but there need to be other changes to rental laws to make this an okay system)

2) Liuna is able to hold onto multi-million dollar assets that not only will bring in rents over decades, giving the union regular revenue, but the union can sell off properties as it requires for various reasons, whether it be pension payouts, or economic downturns and recovery. Borrowing is also very cheap right now, so mortgaging out the cost of these buildings is the cheapest they'll ever be.
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Ah, a closeup! Better. Thanks!!!

The lower half won't be very visible in the skyline. I think that's the worst part... makes it slabby.
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