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Busy Bee · #1 Posted **Oct 7, 2018, 4:16 PM**

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I was just in the West Loop yesterday (friggin 4-4.5 hr wait for a table of 4 at Au Cheval! We were there at 4:30 pm too).

Why would you wait 4 hours for a table? Jeez. I have a hard time justifying 45 minutes.

the urban politician · #2 Posted **Oct 7, 2018, 4:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Why would you wait 4 hours for a table? Jeez. I have a hard time justifying 45 minutes.

We didn't. We went somewhere else, of course.

I was hoping that, with a 4:30 pm arrival, there wouldn't be that much of a wait

the urban politician · #3 Posted **Oct 7, 2018, 5:13 PM**

Even if Foxconn creates a massive population of workers and we see all of this development, I shudder a bit.

We’ve seen this all before. Look at industrial towns like Waukegan or Gary. What happens when Foxconn decides that it wants to shrink its workforce, or worse, shut down?

All that beautiful farmland is now decaying slums.

Racine County will need a more diversified economy, and not to be too dependent on Foxconn, in order for this boom to truly be lasting.

bnk · #4 Posted **Oct 7, 2018, 9:49 PM**

It was not going to remain farmland forever Foxconn or not. I 94 is now a major connection to both airports.
O’Hare being the most important one. It’s the main artery that connects both metros currently.

LouisVanDerWright · #5 Posted **Oct 8, 2018, 3:17 AM**

Better not build the massive 750 acre high tech factory because someday it might close!

God if the people who built Chicago thought that way we'd all still be sitting in wigwams eating wild onions...

the urban politician · #6 Posted **Oct 8, 2018, 2:20 PM**

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Better not build the massive 750 acre high tech factory because someday it might close!

God if the people who built Chicago thought that way we'd all still be sitting in wigwams eating wild onions...

Who’s saying not to build the factory?

But let’s not compare the shitty suburban style auto-oriented crap which will define 99% of the new development in Racine that Foxconn will spawn with the “building of Chicago”. That’s nonsense. Chicago will never get built again. We are lucky it got built when it did.

LouisVanDerWright · #7 Posted **Oct 8, 2018, 6:11 PM**

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Who’s saying not to build the factory?

But let’s not compare the shitty suburban style auto-oriented crap which will define 99% of the new development in Racine that Foxconn will spawn with the “building of Chicago”. That’s nonsense. Chicago will never get built again. We are lucky it got built when it did.

I'm planning on/working on building another Chicsgo, but to each their own...

Let them build throw away suburban crap out there, aren't you the one always defending the suburbs from the corporate HQ poaching? Here's some jobs for you to replace the high paying professional jobs that belong in the CBD. It's not a zero sum game and construction of suburb schlock around giant high tech factories in the suburbs is beneficial for Racine and also for Chicaog and Milwaukee urban cores. This and giant intermodal warehouses are what belong in the suburbs, not F500 HQs or law firms or tech HQs...

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Busy Bee · #8 Posted **Oct 7, 2018, 7:17 PM**

Got it

LouisVanDerWright · #9 Posted **Oct 8, 2018, 6:07 PM**

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I had a friend from NYC refer to the West Loop as a "less douchey Meatpacking District". To Chicagoans, West Loop is considered probably the second douchey-est place behind Wrigleyville.

The similarities to Chelsea might be driving some of that investment.

I don't see the West Loop as the "second most douchey area in the city". Douchebags are typically frat Bros or big ten Chad's and Trixie's. The West Loop is not marketed to them, it's sold to yipsters and tech Bros which are typically nerdy or semi nerdy. Places far douchier than the West Loop include:

River North (literally every square inch of it)
Division Street in Gold Coast
Rush Street/Viagra Triangle
Division Street in Ukrainian Village (i.e. 50/50)
All of Lincoln Park
All of Lakeview
South Loop (have you even been to Scout?)
Especially Wrigleyville
Most suburban "fake culture" Towne Centres

West Loop doesn't even crack the top ten...

HowardL · #10 Posted **Oct 8, 2018, 7:22 PM**

What's with all of the Lake View hate? Aside from Wrigleyville, it's hard to do douchey when surrounded by so many dorks. Dorky? Yes. Douchey? Not at all.

marothisu · #11 Posted **Oct 8, 2018, 10:31 PM**

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What's with all of the Lake View hate? Aside from Wrigleyville, it's hard to do douchey when surrounded by so many dorks. Dorky? Yes. Douchey? Not at all.

Actually outside of Wrigleyville, I mostly take back mentioning Lakeview. There are pockets here and there but overall it's fine. I like Lakeview East a bit.

IrishIllini · #12 Posted **Oct 8, 2018, 10:48 PM**

It has its moments, but I don't find Lakeview douchey. The north side in general can sometimes feel like a Big Ten campus juiced up to a city, but it's not overkill IMO. There's nothing wrong with frat bros or Big Ten "Chad and Trixie"

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west-town-brad · #13 Posted **Oct 9, 2018, 1:29 PM**

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It has its moments, but I don't find Lakeview douchey. The north side in general can sometimes feel like a Big Ten campus juiced up to a city, but it's not overkill IMO. There's nothing wrong with frat bros or Big Ten "Chad and Trixie"

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I find a big college campus to be a pretty nice place to be. I think most others would agree and many retieres move into college towns for this very reason.

Maybe folks need to spend time outside of Depaul bars?

jimjoe45 · #14 Posted **Oct 9, 2018, 2:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by HowardL

What's with all of the Lake View hate? Aside from Wrigleyville, it's hard to do douchey when surrounded by so many dorks. Dorky? Yes. Douchey? Not at all.

Glad someone said something cause I don't see it either. Outside of the frat/sports bar atmosphere on a 2 or 3 block stretch of Clark St.

Seems like once a year one of these threads spirals into a discussion of what the "douchey-est" areas of the city is. Funny thing is all the areas, especially Lakeview, have everything the commentators on this forum advocate for. Density; New, thoughtful, Developments (highrise, midrise, lowrise, and single family); Investment in Public Transportation; and yes a vibrant nightlife complete with restaurants, theaters, clubs, and bars.

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Originally Posted by IrishIllini

It has its moments, but I don't find Lakeview douchey. The north side in general can sometimes feel like a Big Ten campus juiced up to a city, but it's not overkill IMO. There's nothing wrong with frat bros or Big Ten "Chad and Trixie"

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I'm with you. I don't think any other midwest cities would complain about the level of young Big Ten educated grads moving in...

moorhosj · #15 Posted **Oct 8, 2018, 8:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

I don't see the West Loop as the "second most douchey area in the city". Douchebags are typically frat Bros or big ten Chad's and Trixie's. The West Loop is not marketed to them, it's sold to yipsters and tech Bros which are typically nerdy or semi nerdy. Places far douchier than the West Loop include:

River North (literally every square inch of it)
Division Street in Gold Coast
Rush Street/Viagra Triangle
Division Street in Ukrainian Village (i.e. 50/50)
All of Lincoln Park
All of Lakeview
South Loop (have you even been to Scout?)
Especially Wrigleyville
Most suburban "fake culture" Towne Centres

West Loop doesn't even crack the top ten...

Plenty of frat bros and Big Ten graduates also work at tech companies, often times in very lucrative sales or marketing positions. Head over to Federale's on Friday at 5pm and get back to me.

Chisouthside · #16 Posted **Oct 8, 2018, 8:34 PM**

such a divide is also glaringly obvious in the happy hours of Silicon Valley.

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Originally Posted by moorhosj

Plenty of frat bros and Big Ten graduates also work at tech companies, often times in very lucrative sales or marketing positions. Head over to Federale's on Friday at 5pm and get back to me.

west-town-brad · #17 Posted **Oct 8, 2018, 8:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by moorhosj

Plenty of frat bros and Big Ten graduates also work at tech companies, often times in very lucrative sales or marketing positions. Head over to Federale's on Friday at 5pm and get back to me.

wow, guess I'm a douchebag.

moorhosj · #18 Posted **Oct 8, 2018, 9:29 PM**

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wow, guess I'm a douchebag.

I only know because I've been there myself. Any place that rings a bell every time someone takes a shot is deserving of criticism.

Funny enough, this is the first review on Yelp:

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10/2/2018

I've come here a couple times and the lines were absurdly long both times. Luckily, I managed to skip the line since my friend knew someone who knew someone etc.

Super fun vibe, can feel a little too douchey, but with a few vodka sodas, that vibe is fine for a bit. I like the ice shots and throwing them at the bell. All in all, I'd come back.

Busy Bee · #19 Posted **Oct 8, 2018, 8:20 PM**

Dorky douchey or dorky haha?

King of Chicago · #20 Posted **Oct 8, 2018, 8:20 PM**

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Yep. The blank wall at the street and painted precast aren’t so good. Otherwise it could’ve turned out ok.

Exactly; I think that the 2nd floor and higher look great! Its the first floor with the blank wall that is the real bummer here. I am wondering if we can convince the developer/owner to put art work in those 'frames' on the blank wall?