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Old Posted Feb 25, 2022, 1:36 AM
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ashland is definitely better than western for the most part.

but it has its stretches of crap too:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8351...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7854...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8658...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9059...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9360...7i16384!8i8192



and anytime any major chicago street gets near an expressway, man do they tend to get depressing and pedestrian-hostile.

stupid fucking traffic engineers.
All these are bad, but that Wicker Park Lowes is the worst offender because a couple hundred feet south you have a wonderful vibrant Brooklyn-esque urban street on Milwaukee, then you make a turn and see...that. Bulldoze that whole lot and store.
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2022, 10:13 PM
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^ You're depressing me, man. Yeah that shit all sucks big time. But luckily MUCH of that corridor (including areas with lots of new infill) are way better than that.

My 2 least favorite are the nightmare near Ashland and Division, as well as the crapola near the IMD. But the IMD is a grade A shithole of urban planning anyhow.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2022, 1:38 AM
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^ You're depressing me, man. Yeah that shit all sucks big time. But luckily MUCH of that corridor (including areas with lots of new infill) are way better than that.

My 2 least favorite are the nightmare near Ashland and Division, as well as the crapola near the IMD. But the IMD is a grade A shithole of urban planning anyhow.
It's sad that HOUSTON'S Medical District is more urban than Chicago's. Fucking Houston lmao. Luckily it seems they realized that whole area is a urban planning disaster and they laid out a long term plan to fix it. Those new apartments springing up in that area are decent.

https://www.scb.com/project/illinois...t-master-plan/

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Old Posted Feb 25, 2022, 3:58 PM
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It's sad that HOUSTON'S Medical District is more urban than Chicago's. Fucking Houston lmao. Luckily it seems they realized that whole area is a urban planning disaster and they laid out a long term plan to fix it. Those new apartments springing up in that area are decent.

https://www.scb.com/project/illinois...t-master-plan/
Houston's Medical District is merely a large collection of hospitals all in one place with absolutely no street appeal. . . the only way it is "more urban" than Chicago's is simply because it has more buildings. . . it's one street of bland architecture and, just like any medical district, no-one goes there because they want to go there. . .

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Old Posted Feb 24, 2022, 10:35 PM
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I agree those numbers are a bit high but they appear to actually go with the reality of some places...

Percent change in employed population by MSA Jan to June 2021 for QCEW

- Las Vegas: +8.16%
- San Diego: +6.17%
- Honolulu: +5.94%
- Los Angeles: +5.26%
- Boston: +5.24%
- San Francisco: +5.2%
- Chicago: +5.18%
- Austin: +5.06%
- NYC: +4.84%
- Denver: +4.74%
- Minneapolis: +4.74%
- Portland: +4.71%
- Raleigh: +4.69%
- Sacramento: +4.67%
- Detroit: +4.67%
- San Jose: +4.41%
- Pittsburgh: +4.18%
- Seattle: +4.15%
- Milwaukee: +3.7%
- Philadelphia: +3.55%
- Cleveland: +3.54%
- San Antonio: +3.52%
- DC: +3.38%
- Baltimore: +3.13%
- Dallas: +3.03%
- Cincinnati: +3.03%
- Nashville: +2.98%
- Houston: +2.87%
- St. Louis: +2.77%
- Virginia Beach: +2.74%
- Indianapolis : +2.67%
- Orlando: +2.67%
- Atlanta: +2.33%
- Columbus, OH: +2.12%
- Kansas City: +2.09%
- Miami: +1.11%
- Louisville: +1%
- Jacksonville: +0.94%
- Tampa: +0.89%
- Memphis: +0.81%
- Phoenix: -0.11%

This Jan to June for 2021 had the highest pct increase of any Jan to June going back to 2001 (as far as the data goes). In 2019 it was +3.7% which is how Milwaukee did in 2021's period..
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2022, 10:49 PM
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^ Impressive. But more info needed






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^ Then it’s time to move to Houston to be a part of all the excitement, I guess
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^ Then it’s time to move to Houston to be a part of all the excitement, I guess
I'm good here, thanks
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Nothing is worse than a wide street over an expressway intersecting with frontage roads…at an angle. If it’s not bad enough, now you need to cross an even longer angled crosswalk and visibility to drivers is substantially reduced. The Ogden overpass would be better as a wider deck and park, turned into some sort of traffic circle of the same size as Detroit’s downtown campus martius, where the dimensions and turns are enough to slow down drivers and it’s not a nightmare to cross as a pedestrian like the kinds of circles you see in rural suburban areas…or too large like Logan square where people take the corners at high speeds.
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Also, unrelated, but I'm an idiot, I have not realized until now that ChicagoYimby has a forum, like SSP??! Lots of good stuff there, and I think I see a lot of the usual suspects in the forum here that also contribute there.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2022, 2:15 AM
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Well, looking at IL individual income tax collections by month:

11/20 12/20 1/21
1,458,505,088.96 1,964,513,525.85 2,345,147,510.46

11/21 12/21 1/22
1,622,715,693.79 2,147,094,909.35 2,671,092,765.47

It definitely appears there are significantly more employed people and or higher incomes now than a year ago.
How does that compare to 2019?
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2022, 2:20 AM
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How does that compare to 2019?
Great question. I will have to look at it.....


Updated numbers:
November
2019 - 1,422,958,392.26
2020 - 1,458,505,088.96
2021 - 1,622,715,693.79

December
2019 - 1,665,895,364.73
2020 - 1,964,513,525.85
2021 - 2,147,094,909.35

January
2020 - 2,412,987,807.28
2021 - 2,345,147,510.46
2022 - 2,671,092,765.47

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Old Posted Feb 28, 2022, 10:35 PM
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Great question. I will have to look at it.....


Updated numbers:
November
2019 - 1,422,958,392.26
2020 - 1,458,505,088.96
2021 - 1,622,715,693.79

December
2019 - 1,665,895,364.73
2020 - 1,964,513,525.85
2021 - 2,147,094,909.35

January
2020 - 2,412,987,807.28
2021 - 2,345,147,510.46
2022 - 2,671,092,765.47
Is this aggregate amount of money for peoples personal income, more or less? Also what was January 2019?

Curious as to what you make of this data..
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Is this aggregate amount of money for peoples personal income, more or less? Also what was January 2019?

Curious as to what you make of this data..
This is Illinois personal income tax collections by month. It definitely shows significant increases in revenue. Presumably due to job growth and or wage growth. Seems to back up the employment numbers your showing.
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This is Illinois personal income tax collections by month. It definitely shows significant increases in revenue. Presumably due to job growth and or wage growth. Seems to back up the employment numbers your showing.
Just found out where to see these..interesting...
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^ I also did not know that! Another time suck for me to lose myself in when I should be working
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Was lurking on Reddit and came across this thread. Lots of comments saying people are going back in office and how downtown and the trains were packed. Make sense considering the vax and mask mandates got dropped and covid cases are lowering nationwide.

https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/com..._1_for_people/
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Was lurking on Reddit and came across this thread. Lots of comments saying people are going back in office and how downtown and the trains were packed. Make sense considering the vax and mask mandates got dropped and covid cases are lowering nationwide.

https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/com..._1_for_people/
There has been a noticable increase in people downtown this week.
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Was lurking on Reddit and came across this thread. Lots of comments saying people are going back in office and how downtown and the trains were packed. Make sense considering the vax and mask mandates got dropped and covid cases are lowering nationwide.

https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/com..._1_for_people/
Seemed busier on the streets today and some of my co-workers said their Metra trains from the suburbs were MUCH more packed today than last week or even last year before the latest surge. The place we went to pick up lunch had at least double the line it had the other 3 times I had visited back in November/December. It was out the door.

I think *most* people are just over it all - masks and all. My company lifted mask requirements when Chicago and Illinois did. Only a few people on my floor are still wearing their masks around. Everyone else has been over it. Even 2 weeks ago when we came back after the surge, half of everyone would walk around without it on anyway and nobody cared. Ultimately, we had a shot in the beginning to really "eradicate" this thing and didn't. Now we'll be living with it in the background hopefully at decently low levels. People are beginning to accept this and just get on with their lives again.
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Agreed it's gotten much busier downtown the last week or so. A lot of my friends in financial services have said their companies are requiring them to come in 4 days a week.

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From the Loop Alliance report, the last week of January had 90% pre-COVID pedestrian levels despite offices being largely vacant. I wouldn't be surprised if we exceed pre-COVID pedestrian counts, since everyone wants to be outside at this point.
This makes me doubt their numbers... How could pedestrian activity be that high if so few people were in the office? I was downtown a couple of days a week during that period and it still seemed pretty quiet, if I remember correctly.
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