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urban_planner · #1 Posted **Apr 15, 2009, 9:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by FRM

all of you need to take your useless arguments somewhere else, some of us like to come here to get information on any good news for Hamilton's downtown. I would hate to go through pages of bickering just to find out whats happening with the project.

oh I hate that, I stopped coming here for a while for that exact same thing.

thistleclub · #2 Posted **Apr 15, 2009, 11:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by BrianE

Just about the only reason for having any faith in the project is the fact that Judy Marsales and Larry Dianni are involved. Whatever opinons you might have about either of them Judy is a seasoned business woman and Larry actualy cares about this city. Neither of them would knowingly back a project that would defraud it's investors.

But they're involved (at least in part) becaue it makes good business sense for them from a personal brand standpoint. On the most elementary level, JM hasn't been able to crack the downtown market (most of her success is west-end), an area that isn't "owned" by a particular broker or agency at present. Once a turnaround takes hold in earnest, properties and projects would seem likely to shift toward a proven performer wo knows the local niche, and the payday would be healthy. And maybe she just likes a challenge. LD I think cares but also sees the value in being in the mix, having his name attached to infrastructure projects and being seen as a facilitator for a healthy city, growth in a contracting market, and progressive urban thinking. He may only get one more kick at higher office, and even if that doesn't play out as he'd like, this direction could be a shrewd Plan B.

But mainly this is a transparent ruse by two liberal politicians in civilian garb to grab back Hamilton Centre for the Grits and exact proxy revenge for Stan Keyes. Watch the revised blueprints for a 24 hr think tank.

urban_planner · #3 Posted **Apr 14, 2009, 5:09 PM**

Anyone think to e-mail shell Canada and ask them about this.

adam · #4 Posted **Apr 14, 2009, 7:46 PM**

Who cares the reason they are doing it... its getting done, isn't it? I know it irks a couple of you on the board that things are turning around downtown..... Deal with it!!!

urban_planner · #5 Posted **Apr 14, 2009, 7:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by adam

Who cares the reason they are doing it... its getting done, isn't it? I know it irks a couple of you on the board that things are turning around downtown..... Deal with it!!!

I hope this wasnt' aimed towards me.

Seriously though anyone hear of any time lines.

Millstone · #6 Posted **Apr 15, 2009, 4:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by adam

Who cares the reason they are doing it... its getting done, isn't it? I know it irks a couple of you on the board that things are turning around downtown..... Deal with it!!!

lol, someone's PMSing. And no, so far I see nothing getting done. Why can't you just answer the question? What do you have to hide?

SteelTown · #7 Posted **Apr 14, 2009, 9:18 PM**

The Shell gas station is really old too, probably 50 or 60 years old. I saw one picture of the gas station that had that 50's retro gas station look.

matt602 · #8 Posted **Apr 14, 2009, 10:28 PM**

A bit off topic, but theres an ex-Shell gas station on Cannon at Victoria that looks like that as well. I remember the one on John looking like that.

SteelTown · #9 Posted **Apr 17, 2009, 3:30 PM**

Thanks for the inside scoop! And welcome to the board!

adam · #10 Posted **Apr 17, 2009, 8:50 PM**

Here is a dictionary definition of contrarian:
: a person who takes a contrary position or attitude ; specifically : an investor who buys shares of stock when most others are selling and sells when others are buying

WOW, this is actually a compliment! Apparently I am a wise investor who buys when the markets are low and sells when they are high/in demand... Thanks!!

Now can we please get back on topic?

Millstone · #11 Posted **Apr 20, 2009, 1:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by adam

Here is a dictionary definition of contrarian:
: a person who takes a contrary position or attitude ; specifically : an investor who buys shares of stock when most others are selling and sells when others are buying

WOW, this is actually a compliment! Apparently I am a wise investor who buys when the markets are low and sells when they are high/in demand... Thanks!!

Now can we please get back on topic?

Yeah that's it, I'm calling you a stock trader. I'm definitely not referring to the non-bolded definition and decided to highlight your day job at the TSX.

realcity · #12 Posted **Apr 20, 2009, 1:28 AM**

Stinson's next project. 100 story. tallest in Canada

corner of John and Wilson

Millstone · #13 Posted **Apr 20, 2009, 1:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by realcity

Stinson's next project. 100 story. tallest in Canada

corner of John and Wilson

matt602 · #14 Posted **Apr 20, 2009, 3:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by Millstone

I don't think that could be any more appropriate. Is this 100 story thing a joke? Did he not learn his lesson the first time around? There's no way in hell anybody is going to take this thing seriously.

Millstone · #15 Posted **Apr 20, 2009, 3:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by matt602

I don't think that could be any more appropriate. Is this 100 story thing a joke? Did he not learn his lesson the first time around? There's no way in hell anybody is going to take this thing seriously.

I guess he's buying the Proctor el-Weirdo Dance Dance Revolution building that's for sale and sticking it there.

astroblaster · #16 Posted **Apr 20, 2009, 3:53 AM**

one project at a time maybe?

and much respect to Millstone for bringing Picard to the thread.

BCTed · #17 Posted **Apr 20, 2009, 3:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by matt602

I don't think that could be any more appropriate. Is this 100 story thing a joke? Did he not learn his lesson the first time around? There's no way in hell anybody is going to take this thing seriously.

I think it was just realcity having some fun and getting ahead of himself.

There is no way in heck that anybody should have taken the first 100-story thing seriously.

ryan_mcgreal · #18 Posted **Apr 20, 2009, 1:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Millstone

Make it so!

And I'll have an Earl Grey tea while you're at it.

SteelTown · #19 Posted **Apr 20, 2009, 2:30 PM**

It's got some nice curves though, it beats Marilyn Monroe's curves.

adam · #20 Posted **Apr 20, 2009, 2:53 PM**

Harry Stinson's desire to find a development that will work for the city is admired by many of us. He doesn't simply give up at the first sign of opposition. I share the same mindset in many areas of my life as well. And in the end, only one of his proposals has to be built for him to be successful. He's adapting and in the end will come out with something far superior to his original proposal.