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[PHLtoNYC]

Do people think Goldenberg would actually build this tower if it were given a green light today? I have little faith in them.

(But yes, either way, the Symphony House people need to stick it where the sun don't shine.)

[nemesisinphilly]

Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC

Do people think Goldenberg would actually build this tower if it were given a green light today? I have little faith in them.

(But yes, either way, the Symphony House people need to stick it where the sun don't shine.)

Maybe not but a project that has cleared all zoning hurdles can be flipped.

[nemesisinphilly]

This is back on the calendar for the 11/19 ZBA meeting

[Inquizative]

Yup, still a parking lot....Always thought it would be a good space for the 76ers arena but I'm speculating that Jefferson wants it, eventually.

[kool-ski]

ZONING PERMIT
ZP-2024-009767

FOR THE RELOCATION OF LOT LINES IS TO CONSOLIDATE TEN (10) EXISTING DEEDED LOTS (1414 LOMBARD ST), (1416 LOMBARD ST) (1418 LOMBARD ST) (1420 LOMBARD ST), (1422 LOMBARD ST), (500 S. BROAD ST), (506 S. BROAD ), (508 S. BROAD ST), (510 S. BROAD ST), (512-20 S. BROAD ST), (THREE (3) OPA ACCOUNTS), INTO A SINGLE LOT (PARCEL “A”)

https://eclipse.phila.gov/phillylmsp...ctId=792757435

As this goes back to the ZBA next month, the 4th Zoning Permit issued today in the last 2 years noticeably seems to be going back & forth with the wording, as it now includes the consolidation of 512-520 Broad Street (which I thought The Goldenberg Group owned) at Broad & South.

However, the 2nd Zoning Permit (ZP-2022-012487) issued back on Nov. 14, 2022 also included said lot. the 3rd zoning Permit did not have this lot included, so I'm confused. Do they have another tower planned or is this simply a typo? Sure would be lovely if it's the former

[nemesisinphilly]

This appeal was supposed to be heard at the ZBA today, anyone have an update on what happened?

[PurpleWhiteOut]

Originally Posted by nemesisinphilly

This appeal was supposed to be heard at the ZBA today, anyone have an update on what happened?

I just watched the meeting (which isn't listed, but you can change the link of another NOV video to 19), and they said the case was withdrawn. Not sure what to make of that

[PurpleWhiteOut]

Originally Posted by kool-ski

ZONING PERMIT
ZP-2024-009767



https://eclipse.phila.gov/phillylmsp...ctId=792757435

As this goes back to the ZBA next month, the 4th Zoning Permit issued today in the last 2 years noticeably seems to be going back & forth with the wording, as it now includes the consolidation of 512-520 Broad Street (which I thought The Goldenberg Group owned) at Broad & South.

However, the 2nd Zoning Permit (ZP-2022-012487) issued back on Nov. 14, 2022 also included said lot. the 3rd zoning Permit did not have this lot included, so I'm confused. Do they have another tower planned or is this simply a typo? Sure would be lovely if it's the former

Actually it looks like you're right. The PDF of the permit even includes a drawing explicitly around both properties with the owners listed. Here's even the name of the client listing the full new address


I'm guessing the first application was withdrawn because some new plans are happening behind the scenes

[mcgrath618]

Originally Posted by PurpleWhiteOut

Actually it looks like you're right. The PDF of the permit even includes a drawing explicitly around both properties with the owners listed. Here's even the name of the client listing the full new address


I'm guessing the first application was withdrawn because some new plans are happening behind the scenes

We'd seen an original proposal for the site of a Virgin Hotel along with some other highrise. Could we be going back to that?

[TonyTone]

This just got the green light or at least a sign of movement ahead

https://x.com/JackPhillyRE/status/1896666869047939089

[mcgrath618]

Originally Posted by TonyTone

This just got the green light or at least a sign of movement ahead

https://x.com/JackPhillyRE/status/1896666869047939089

I trust Jack O'Brien, but I remain dubious.

[mcgrath618]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

I trust Jack O'Brien, but I remain dubious.

A Clerical Fake Out at Broad & Lombard

You know, we here at the sprawling enterprise that is JackPhillyRE, despite our best efforts to triple check the veracity of everything we bring to you on the daily, understand that sometimes it’s necessary to say, “I was wrong.” If you follow along with us on our social media accounts (Editor’s Note: you should follow along with us on our social media accounts), you may have seen a recent post about an elegant, gleaming residential tower proposed to rise at the SW corner of Broad & Lombard...

...Now, for the update: in our boundless enthusiasm, we posted the “news” - except we were perhaps/definitely a bit hasty in doing so. The fine folks from the Goldenberg Group reached out to let us know that that permit was not in fact a new permit, but a small amendment, with L&I issuing the “new” permit you see above as an effective pump-fake on your favorite real estate blogger. Long story short? The site will remain as is for the time being.

And now that we’ve tempered our initial flush of excitement, this reality check makes a lot of sense given the sub-optimal lending environment and the upward creep of construction costs in the region. After the rush of permits and building over the last few years across town, the current truth is that we are unlikely to see few if any substantial projects moving forward that have yet to start digging in the immediate future. So, consider this one blogger’s mea culpa for the fake out as we envision the city’s built environment in these curious times ahead.:

[Jayfar]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

A Clerical Fake Out at Broad & Lombard

Recall that there had been long-continued appeals by residents of Symphony House against the issuance of the zoning permits ; those appeals were finally withdrawn late last year.

[PurpleWhiteOut]

With the permits being for the commercial space, I wonder if it's for work on the Health Center

[PHLtoNYC]

Originally Posted by PurpleWhiteOut

With the permits being for the commercial space, I wonder if it's for work on the Health Center

New Whole Foods?

[PHLtoNYC]

Just south of Health building. I forgot the city sent out an RFP in 2017 and somehow chose Goldenberg...

Goldenberg Group puts part of South Broad development site up for sale
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...oldenberg.html

The property up for sale at 512 S. Broad St. includes the three-story former World Communications Charter School, which is vacant. The 46,359-square-foot building was built in 1924, according to JLL’s listing. It sits on the northwest corner of Broad and South streets.

Goldenberg Group bought the building for $10 million in 2016, according to property records.

The city put the health center property up for sale and issued a request for qualifications in 2017 and selected Goldenberg Group over Dranoff Properties, Scannapieco Development Corp., LCOR and Linden Lane Capital Partners.

[Redddog]

Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC

Just south of Health building. I forgot the city sent out an RFP in 2017 and somehow chose Goldenberg...

Goldenberg Group puts part of South Broad development site up for sale
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...oldenberg.html

The property up for sale at 512 S. Broad St. includes the three-story former World Communications Charter School, which is vacant. The 46,359-square-foot building was built in 1924, according to JLL’s listing. It sits on the northwest corner of Broad and South streets.

Goldenberg Group bought the building for $10 million in 2016, according to property records.

The city put the health center property up for sale and issued a request for qualifications in 2017 and selected Goldenberg Group over Dranoff Properties, Scannapieco Development Corp., LCOR and Linden Lane Capital Partners.

How the hell does Goldenberg win ANY RFP ever?!

They are a vaporware con job that is one of the most detrimental "developers" in this city. They pull the plug on anything they start and they sit on "won" projects until they sell their interests. And they do it all the time.

Mayor Parker needs to make things harder for these scumbags, not easier. Disgusting.

[mcgrath618]

Originally Posted by Redddog

How the hell does Goldenberg win ANY RFP ever?!

They are a vaporware con job that is one of the most detrimental "developers" in this city. They pull the plug on anything they start and they sit on "won" projects until they sell their interests. And they do it all the time.

Mayor Parker needs to make things harder for these scumbags, not easier. Disgusting.

+1. We need a vacant property tax (a surface parking lot counts as vacant, sorry!) to force their hand at 8th and Market. It is inexcusable that that lot has not been developed during any of the booms over the last few years.

If they're really not ready to build, make it a public park. Developers shouldn't be allowed to sit on lots that valuable waiting for nothing.

[Redddog]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

+1. We need a vacant property tax (a surface parking lot counts as vacant, sorry!) to force their hand at 8th and Market. It is inexcusable that that lot has not been developed during any of the booms over the last few years.

If they're really not ready to build, make it a public park. Developers shouldn't be allowed to sit on lots that valuable waiting for nothing.

Public parks don't make them any money. These scum bags will never develop ANYTHING if it's not gonna make them a pile of money. And they will only ever develop anything unless the economic cycle is at it's most beneficial to them. And that cycle has to remain intact through the project. Things change during the project? Eh...fill it in with gravel and we'll see you in a decade.

You think they're ever gonna dig a single hole at Penn's Landing? You are DREAMING. The DRWC essentially signed-on to sit at that site and languish until Goldenberg finds a higher bidder. What they did to the Marina @ Morgan's Pier was brutal - displaced dozens of residents with a letter that gave them a week to vacate. What they did across the street was classic Goldenberg.

They should be banned from developing here. Not winning huge RFPs. It's absurd.

[Jayfar]

Originally Posted by Redddog

You think they're ever gonna dig a single hole at Penn's Landing? You are DREAMING. The DRWC essentially signed-on to sit at that site and languish until Goldenberg finds a higher bidder. What they did to the Marina @ Morgan's Pier was brutal - displaced dozens of residents with a letter that gave them a week to vacate. What they did across the street was classic Goldenberg.

They should be banned from developing here. Not winning huge RFPs. It's absurd.

Uh, the chosen developer for Penn’s landing is the Durst Organization, NOT Goldenberg.