Cobalt Luxury Residences On King | 97.5 & 97.5m | 2 x 30 fl | Complete

[Chronamut]

I wonder if those trees will die due to lack of sunlight now..

[Beedok]

Trees seem to do fine on thinner streets with buildings just as tall in Ottawa?

[Chronamut]

Originally Posted by Beedok

Trees seem to do fine on thinner streets with buildings just as tall in Ottawa?

That's up and down though, as ottawa goes north to south, not side to side where the shadows of the building on the south will blanket these trees in shadow for a large portion of the day. Also most of ottawa street is 2-3 stories.

Granted the trees in gore park seem to do ok - but the buildings are farther away.. even if they are slightly higher in parts.. its just the trees in front of this specific building all lean and curve to the south, so clearly they are reaching towards the sunlight away from their existing building in the north, which has now been blocked. Canyons running left to right are not that great for trees.

Also curious what the "spouts" are made of on both buildings mentioned above - will they rust? Will that cause rust trails under them as the building ages?

[ScreamingViking]

Originally Posted by Chronamut

That's up and down though, as ottawa goes north to south, not side to side where the shadows of the building on the south will blanket these trees in shadow for a large portion of the day. Also most of ottawa street is 2-3 stories.

I believe Beedok meant Ottawa the city, not the local street.

I guess we'll find out. Anyone know what kind of trees those are? Are they native to the region? Will they do just as well shaded for large portions of the day as they would in direct sunlight?

This is an issue that the city will have to deal with as downtown intensifies further. Though I think it's a better problem to have than that of invasive insects killing trees, such as the emerald ash borer.

[Crapht]

Originally Posted by ScreamingViking

I believe Beedok meant Ottawa the city, not the local street.

I guess we'll find out. Anyone know what kind of trees those are? Are they native to the region? Will they do just as well shaded for large portions of the day as they would in direct sunlight?

This is an issue that the city will have to deal with as downtown intensifies further. Though I think it's a better problem to have than that of invasive insects killing trees, such as the emerald ash borer.

I think those are London Plane trees. Probably the most tolerant urban tree around. It’s a hybrid and not native but used extensively in cities. Same tree as city hall forecourt.

https://www.arborday.org/trees/treeg...cfm?ItemID=904

[mikevbar1]

I would assume Hamilton makes developers do some kind of shadowing studies (for trees amongst other things) when a project is proposed… right? Other cities are ontop of this kind of thing, but at the same time I wouldn’t be shocked if no one at the city bothered to inquire early on in the process. Long story short, I think the trees will be ok- it’s not ideal, but they shouldn’t die from a lack of sunlight here outright.

Also, while the brickwork leaves something to be desired up close, it’s really great we’re getting brick for a street-oriented ground level facade. It’s nothing new if we take a really wide look at condo projects, but for downtown this is the first of its kind, regardless of the quality. I think we will all find this the least sterilizing condo project built here yet.

[Innsertnamehere]

shadow studies are required, yes - but not for trees.

Street trees need to be hardy enough for salt, drought, etc - and as a result are pretty tolerant to things like shade.

I wouldn't be too concerned.

[TheRitsman]

According to: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs7CCz8v...JiY2I4NDBkZg==

Crane removal is planned for June 13-15

[HamiltonBoyInToronto]

They have clad the mechanical roof tops with glass and made them look like extra floors ! It looks sooo great ! Now light these mothers up at night !!!!

[PaperSun]

They are setting up the ground crane right now to disassemble the two cranes at the top.

[ScreamingViking]

Originally Posted by PaperSun

They are setting up the ground crane right now to disassemble the two cranes at the top.

I have likely asked this before, but how are cranes for much taller towers disassembled? The ones that can't be reached by ground cranes?

[Fruitloops]

Large Liebherr crane took down the construction crane on George Street back in 2020. (32 stories)

[Innsertnamehere]

Originally Posted by ScreamingViking

I have likely asked this before, but how are cranes for much taller towers disassembled? The ones that can't be reached by ground cranes?

They use a series of progressively smaller cranes until they have one small enough to fit in the elevator.

Seriously. Some times it takes 3-4 cranes before they are done.

Here is it being done in Toronto a few years ago:

https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2015/03...derricks.15281

[ScreamingViking]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

They use a series of progressively smaller cranes until they have one small enough to fit in the elevator.

Seriously. Some times it takes 3-4 cranes before they are done.

Here is it being done in Toronto a few years ago:

https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2015/03...derricks.15281

Thank you!

I was thinking stuff like do they use a helicopter [insert Schwarzenegger movie quote here] or break it down with the existing construction implements to a point where the permanent window-washing arms can bring the rest to street level.

[TheRitsman]

[HamiltonBoyInToronto]

Sad to see these cranes come down - but glad the buildings are nearing completion and there will be a huge influx of residents to the core! Very exciting

[Innsertnamehere]

The only thing better than a crane going up in my books is one coming down because a building is almost done. A completed building is 1000x better than an under construction one.

[TheRitsman]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

The only thing better than a crane going up in my books is one coming down because a building is almost done. A completed building is 1000x better than an under construction one.

Agreed. These buildings have ended up being a great addition to the area. They don't feel like they crush King William at all, and their separation allows the sky to still be visible. While the finishings of the stone work is subpar, it's better than most and honestly from a distance looks good.

Cycled by to take this photo and people were impressed by the size of the crane, and the area is overall bustling. I'm excited for it to be done, as it has been a mess since construction started.

Looking forward to the Zellers property being redeveloped one of these days too, but that will inevitably mean more mess and construction, so the quicker the better.

[Innsertnamehere]

It's funny you mention separation here as these actually have a very substandard separation distance by traditional planning metrics. From what I recall it's quite small - something like 18 metres vs. the 25 metre standard.

[TheRitsman]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

It's funny you mention separation here as these actually have a very substandard separation distance by traditional planning metrics. From what I recall it's quite small - something like 18 metres vs. the 25 metre standard.

I believe I had recalled that, but honestly at 40 metres up, I doubt 7 metres is very perceivable. I think it helps as well and makes it even less of an issue here because the towers are perpendicular to each other.