Canadian Airport Thread II

[Dominion301]

Nice historical timeline of YKF. There is one glaring error. The photo of the Wellington-Waterloo Flight Centre that says "1980s" is off by a couple of decades as there's clearly visible a flat screen computer monitor. Maybe they were referring to the 1980s decor, lol.

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

Nice historical timeline of YKF. There is one glaring error. The photo of the Wellington-Waterloo Flight Centre that says "1980s" is off by a couple of decades as there's clearly visible a flat screen computer monitor. Maybe they were referring to the 1980s decor, lol.

lol..

In other news, today AC begins YUL's deepest run in South America yet. YUL-SCL 3x weekly B788. Over 8,700km, 11hr block time.

It is YUL's 5th South American destination. Rio will be #6 when it comes online in February, and Medellín #7 next summer. Impressive how the South American market from Montreal has grown. Before 2017, we only had winter seasonal 1x or 2x weekly TS service to Cartagena. That was it.

[Alexcaban]

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

lol..

In other news, today AC begins YUL's deepest run in South America yet. YUL-SCL 3x weekly B788. Over 8,700km, 11hr block time.

It is YUL's 5th South American destination. Rio will be #6 when it comes online in February, and Medellín #7 next summer. Impressive how the South American market from Montreal has grown. Before 2017, we only had winter seasonal 1x or 2x weekly TS service to Cartagena. That was it.

Has already been up gauged to a 789 during parts of the season.

[samuelx88]

I am wondering why there still hasn't been any press release about Air Transat new YQB-NTE direct flight even though it has been on sale on their website for almost 2 weeks

Edit: 30 minutes after contacting the airport, they announced it officially. Maybe they just forgot.

[Dominion301]

Originally Posted by samuelx88

I am wondering why there still hasn't been any press release about Air Transat new YQB-NTE direct flight even though it has been on sale on their website for almost 2 weeks

Edit: 30 minutes after contacting the airport, they announced it officially. Maybe they just forgot.

Here it is with an additional route announcement simultaneously: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...885210639.html

TS are becoming the first North American carrier to Albania with the addition of a weekly YYT-TIA on a 332.

[Alexcaban]

Noticed Porter has added YUL-FLL year round.

[Dominion301]

Originally Posted by Alexcaban

Noticed Porter has added YUL-FLL year round.

Looks like summer service will be on days 167. Wonder what that bird will do on days 2345?

[RomanR27]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

Looks like summer service will be on days 167. Wonder what that bird will do on days 2345?

I don't see these - I checked a random week in May and June and no non-stop options were available on Porter's site. I do see the odd one on Google Flights, but if I click through the only booking options are on third parties. Perhaps they recently removed them?

[hollywoodcory]

If your traveling with WS over the next 48 hours - its likely going to be messy. YYC is basically closed due to blizzard conditions and YEG is equally as awful.

Lot's of diversions, delays and cancellations that will probably take days to clean up.

[People_talking]

Average delay at YYC is exceeding 3 hours right now, winds are gusting ~90-kph at my location, and it looks like operations are suspended atm.

[nname]

Originally Posted by People_talking

Average delay at YYC is exceeding 3 hours right now, winds are gusting ~90-kph at my location, and it looks like operations are suspended atm.

Guess it was the same system that hits YVR last night? Wind gust were over 70kph for hours, luckily it happened between midnight and 6am last night...

[casper]

Originally Posted by nname

Guess it was the same system that hits YVR last night? Wind gust were over 70kph for hours, luckily it happened between midnight and 6am last night...

It was nasty lots of power outage on Vancouver Island. Someone was telling me earlier in the week there have been some Porter flights abort landing in Victoria and instead head to Vancouver instead.

[hollywoodcory]

Originally Posted by People_talking

Average delay at YYC is exceeding 3 hours right now, winds are gusting ~90-kph at my location, and it looks like operations are suspended atm.

Full ground stop for about 2 hours. Slowly resuming operations now.

[Airboy]

Expecting Porter to make a formal announcement of flights between YEG, YVR, and YYC.

Which will be nice. Make AC and WJ pick up their service

[Dominion301]

Originally Posted by Airboy

Expecting Porter to make a formal announcement of flights between YEG, YVR, and YYC.

Which will be nice. Make AC and WJ pick up their service

The western triangle would certainly be a way for PD to increase daily aircraft utilization, which they definitely need to do and to reduce their ASL. The problem for them though will they be able to attract enough O&D out west as the only connections available will be to their eastern markets...if the timings work.

I still don't understand why PD haven't increased YYZ-YUL/YOW from 4x to 7x & 8x daily respectively (YUL also has a daily TS that PD codeshare on), both to vastly improve connectivity and capture a much greater share of eastern triangle O&D, which is tough to do when you're only 4x.

[casper]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

The western triangle would certainly be a way for PD to increase daily aircraft utilization, which they definitely need to do and to reduce their ASL. The problem for them though will they be able to attract enough O&D out west as the only connections available will be to their eastern markets...if the timings work.

I still don't understand why PD haven't increased YYZ-YUL/YOW from 4x to 7x & 8x daily respectively (YUL also has a daily TS that PD codeshare on), both to vastly improve connectivity and capture a much greater share of eastern triangle O&D, which is tough to do when you're only 4x.

We will have to see timing on the western triangle. However, there may well be connections involved as well.

They have American and Alaska interline/codeshares out of Vancouver. That will fill a few seats. While there are some domestic connections, I think they need to start to look at also adding Saskatoon, Regina, Victoria and Winnipeg into the mix. Perhaps get a few Q400 in Vancouver.

[Dominion301]

Originally Posted by casper

We will have to see timing on the western triangle. However, there may well be connections involved as well.

They have American and Alaska interline/codeshares out of Vancouver. That will fill a few seats. While there are some domestic connections, I think they need to start to look at also adding Saskatoon, Regina, Victoria and Winnipeg into the mix. Perhaps get a few Q400 in Vancouver.

There aren't enough DH4s to send any out west. There's about 3 lines of slack in the DH4 fleet and I'd bet those are being saved for YHU's opening to add YHU-YTZ/YQM/YFC/YHZ.

There's one other thing a potential YEG/YYC-YVR could connect to on PD metal is the upcoming YVR-PHX flight but that's a lot of backtracking.

[Zmonkey]

Originally Posted by Airboy

Expecting Porter to make a formal announcement of flights between YEG, YVR, and YYC.

Which will be nice. Make AC and WJ pick up their service

Define pick up there Service?

For Calgary, Vancouver:
Westjet does 10-13 flights a day
Air Canada does 8-9 a day
Flair has 2-5 flights a day depending on time of year.

Lounges in Calgary, AC has one in Vancouver, connections on both sides.

For the hour flight, the service is what it should be. What are you hoping for?
Business travel will stay on AC/WestJet just because of how many flights there are per day. Leisure will go to cheapest option or one that fits schedule since its already fairly inexpensive.

Flair got in with $100 RT flights.

[peytol]

Originally Posted by Zmonkey

Define pick up there Service?

For Calgary, Vancouver:
Westjet does 10-13 flights a day
Air Canada does 8-9 a day
Flair has 2-5 flights a day depending on time of year.

Lounges in Calgary, AC has one in Vancouver, connections on both sides.

For the hour flight, the service is what it should be. What are you hoping for?
Business travel will stay on AC/WestJet just because of how many flights there are per day. Leisure will go to cheapest option or one that fits schedule since its already fairly inexpensive.

Flair got in with $100 RT flights.

Last summer WJ was at 17x a day on peak days YYC-YVR, so 30 ish flights a day in the summer, mostly on max -8. Porter will be a fairly small addition to the capacity on the route, assuming they start with 3x a day or so. Seems like a no brainer to give it a try. Im surprised they waited until now.

I agree that it makes no sense for porter to bring Dash 8s out west, would much better to start new routes out of YOW if they have spare flying. They would need to massively ramp up the YVR E2 base to justify it, even then it would probably make more sense to just fly an E2 on YLW-YVR etc if you want feed. BC is really the only place AC and WJ compete on regional routes, not sure why Porter would want to get in on that too.

[casper]

Originally Posted by peytol

Last summer WJ was at 17x a day on peak days YYC-YVR, so 30 ish flights a day in the summer, mostly on max -8. Porter will be a fairly small addition to the capacity on the route, assuming they start with 3x a day or so. Seems like a no brainer to give it a try. Im surprised they waited until now.

I agree that it makes no sense for porter to bring Dash 8s out west, would much better to start new routes out of YOW if they have spare flying. They would need to massively ramp up the YVR E2 base to justify it, even then it would probably make more sense to just fly an E2 on YLW-YVR etc if you want feed. BC is really the only place AC and WJ compete on regional routes, not sure why Porter would want to get in on that too.

It provides connections for both themselves and their Alaska/American partners.