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Old Posted Aug 14, 2011, 9:18 PM
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There needs to be a decision on cost range and location to move this debate forward. Dexter is in an awkward position because he cannot give HRM carte blanche to choose whatever scale of stadium they please, to be followed with 1/3 provincial funding.

It's sad that we are not there yet after 2 council votes (this time) and many, many reports. HRM spent something like 13M on Commonwealth Games stuff -- is that even being used now? It's like we start at square one every 5 years.
I imagine that there must be quite a bit of useful information from the Commonwealth Games studies - transportation requirements, etc. If Shannon Park is used then I wonder if there were studies on the cost of demolition of the buildings and possibly even soil testing(?).

I hope that the phase 2 of the current stadium study will provide a fairly detailed design that can be sent out for tender bids.

I am quite excited about the prospect of an economically designed stadium - I believe that 20,000 permanent seats is very possible at an acceptable price. One problem with a 10,000 permanent seat plus 10,000 temporary seat stadium is that it will be built with only enough washroom facilities for 10,000 permanent seats (as indicated in the Sierra report).

I really believe that the MLS took the correct route. It is not a big revenue league at about 280 million dollars total league annual revenue (reference - http://keepinitrealsoccer.com/2011/03/mls-highlighted-on-sportsmoney/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_profe...he_United_States_and_Canada#cite_note-16 ). By building stadiums that are fairly simple in design the MLS minimized much of their financial risk. Some inexpensive stadiums start without even having paved parking - just packed ground and gravel should be sufficient if a stadium is built at Shannon Park (money saved on parking means that more can be spent on the actual stadium).

I am finding that Bing Maps Birds Eye View is a great way of comparing the design of various stadiums. The Columbus Crew Stadium is another economical stadium which cost $28.5 million in 1999 dollars (about $38 million in current dollars - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Crew_Stadium ). A screen-capture image from Bing Maps is below. The Bing Maps link is here - http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qp1dr38...olumbus%2C%20OH%2043211-2091&form=LMLTCC

     
     
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