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Originally Posted by awvan
Seriously, can the mods move the past 3 pages of this discussion to the Transit Fantasies Thread? It would make much more sense there...and we can probably the delete the bickering about Alberta's government/social services system. Take that to the political threads.
A couple notes on Allan's maps (I anticipate my comments will be moved as well).
Metro Vancouver Map:
Why re-align Highway 15 through Surrey? It's almost perfectly straight now and runs between ALR (with the exception of Cloverdale). Why re-route it to meet Highway 10 in the middle of nowhere?
Is a tunnel from North Rd in Burquitlam to the Barnet really necessary? It seems like overkill to connect those routes. Most people in the area are using the North Rd to get TO Port Moody/Coquitlam, not away from it. If they were, wouldn't they just go south to Highway 1? On that point though, a tunnel under St. Johns would make it a much nicer, more local type street.
I am unsure of your tunnel plans through Burnaby but don't really know the area well enough to accurately comment. If it were my choice, I would tunnel from the NW bridgehead of the (new, re-aligned) Patullo Bridge, underneath McBride Avenue to connect with Highway 1 somewhere in the Burnaby Lake stretch. I'd also look at tunnelling underneath New Westminster (SW corner to NE corner) to allow Royal and Columbia to be more local traffic. Again though, this isn't my neighbourhood and don't know it all that well.
I think a full interchange at 200th and Highway to connect to the Golden Ears Bridge is important. Not everyone will be approaching from Golden Ears Way (especially those coming from Abbotsford/Chilliwack).
I have to say a big dig type project from Granville/Oak under Downtown to Taylor Way/Highway 1 is a HORRIBLE idea. First of all, how in god's name do you plan to have a portal at Granville at 12th? Secondly, having tunnel portals off Granville on local streets would decimate the neighbourhood. Same goes for all those portals on the edge of the West End. The only places they would kinda work would be at the south end of the Granville Street Bridge, and even still the idea is dubious. The tunnel portals on the West Van side are easier to deal with, and the Highway 1 interchange doesn't look too bad (provided it's underground, otherwise that is a lot of neighbourhood to destroy). All that being said I don't think we can do a big dig in Vancouver because we wouldn't be connecting interstates (highways) on either end, we would be connecting arterial roads (key word being road).
However, on the other side of the North Shore, your interchange design for the north end of the Ironworkers Memorial is absolutely perfect. I don't think I would change a single thing. For it to work best I think we'd need an 8 lane highway standard bridge, but I'm guessing you took that to be a given.
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You seem to be forgetting that Granville St in Vancouver is Highway 99, and Taylor Way in West Van is also Highway 99. Taylor is also Highway 1A.
Putting in some tunnels between Granville/Broadway in Vancouver and Taylor/Highway 1 in West Van IS building a better connection between the Federal Trans Canada Highway and the Provincial Highway 99.
It could be a Canada-BC infrastructure project when the next recession hits and Ottawa & Victoria need to buy some votes.
Maybe it will be built faster if its called the "First Narrows Harper-Campbell Tunnel"
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