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Originally Posted by Evil Empire
I've seen the exact opposite as far as what you mentioned about them having higher rates of crime from different sources, you can find most of the studies on Google, especially from the Center for Immigration Studies. And, no, I'm not saying that they have an amazing effect on society here...there definitely needs to be a change in the policy and there needs to be enforcement for the offenders but not in the way they're going about it...spending millions of dollars, then getting millions of dollars EXTRA to raid workplaces, block off streets, disrupt neighborhoods and put on a big show for everyone when the state is sinking financially? It's ridiculous.
Just because you invite every cameraman in the Phoenix metro area to witness the amazing Joe arrest 40 people and have 12 of them turn out to be undocumented doesn't mean he's the "only one doing something about it", while probably a couple hundred more crossed the border during his "crackdowns." Phoenix PD and the other law enforcement agencies in the valley routinely try to make a dent in the problem by quietly arresting and deporting offenders but they don't make a — circus out of it.
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I agree that the way our Sheriff is going about dealing with immigrants isn't very cost effective and that it is mostly for show. however, he seems like the only high profile arizona politician who doesn't want to ignore the problem completely; so in my book, he deserves credit for keeping the issue on the radar and keeping the pressure on other politicians, even if he is only doing it for his own interests. The employer sanctions law needs to be given teeth in order for the problem to be solved.
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Check your research. Every scientifically conducted study has shown the illegal immigrants have a lower rate of crime than low socioeconomic americans. Its on par with college educated americans. People whine about education but the funds for that come from property taxes and some sales taxes which illegal immigrants pay. Everyone wants to focus on the "leaching" of our social programs but doesn't want to admit that they don't mind the lower cost of construction that comes from illegal labor. People say they want to hire americans right up to the point it costs more or produces less efficient work. If we had a real solution to this problem it coulf benefit everyone.
i doubt that illegals commit crimes on a lower basis than other low socioeconomic americans. even if they do, they can't be too much lower. the point is that there is an overwhelming influx of low socioeconomic people that the state won't be able to effectively handle if trends continue the way they have for the last 10 years. yes they generate money and provide lower construction costs, but not much of that money they receive goes back to the government but you can be sure a lot of government money goes to supporting them. a fair amount of it actually goes back to relatives in mexico. like i said earlier, the employer sanctions law need to be given more weight to it. its clear to me that neither of us is going to sway the other so lets try to stay on topic shall we?
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