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Originally Posted by someone123
For St. John's there's less of a clear founding date but it also wasn't really a city in the 1700's and earlier. Some forms of development would have happened first in St. John's (streets and buildings being used into the future), others in Saint John (urban institutions and infrastructure created after the Loyalists arrived). The Loyalists were advanced, had a bunch of expectations around how they wanted things to be run, and developed NB quickly.
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Very accurately stated. There was already a seasonal settlement here in 1583. As early as the 1520s (for example, the first letter sent from North America to Europe in 1527, from St. John's) there were already many nations (mostly Basque, Breton, Portuguese, etc.) with seasonal structures here. 1506, I think, is the first reference to "dozens of ships" in St. John's harbour.
But this wasn't a colony like the ones that came in the first years of the 1600s. Lots of fishing rooms, and flakes, and whatever else, but almost no building with even a place to sit, let alone live. Water and Duckworth streets were well-established as Upper and Lower paths before any white person slept overnight onshore in St. John's
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