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Originally Posted by skyhigh07
I was walking around NYC last night around Penn Staton. I lived in the city between 2014-2017 and I will say compared to what I remember then versus now, it’s not great - more litter, druggies and homeless. It feels like city officials don’t know how to respond to it or don’t want to. Putting the office vacancy rate aside, my sense is that CC’s bounce back from Covid is largely the work of CCD. Their date driven, engaged approach is a big part of keeping the city afloat imo.
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I wouldn't use Penn Station as a descriptor of current New York. That is like using Market East as a descriptor for current Philadelphia.
Manhattan is still dirty, but is by and large doing fine. There is an uptick in homeless though, especially under the annoying scaffolding.
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Originally Posted by mcgrath618
Negladelphians like to complain about how far behind we are compared with our European peers in terms of cleanliness, city services, etc.
Obviously all of the countries in Europe are different from the US and have their pros and cons (health care, taxes, etc.) but insofar as cities? It’s really only London so far that has wowed me with cleanliness, safety, city services, etc.
Even Amsterdam, the king of all urbanism arguments, had its own set of problems.
That’s not to say I haven’t enjoyed everywhere I’ve been, nor that Philadelphia can’t learn anything from a place like Amsterdam, Paris, etc. I was just led to believe I’d never want to come home after I saw how much better Europe was 
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The grass isn't always greener, but I still love European cities. The history, walk-ability, eclectic variety of food, things to do, sites, shopping, etc., is what I fell in love with. Outside of the Northeast and Chicago, the US falls short in that realm.
Thoughts on Vienna and Stockholm? I visited those 2 this year for the first time, loved both of them. Vienna was also voted the World's Most Livable City.