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Old Posted Sep 2, 2021, 12:26 AM
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I'm hoping now that this development will start to rise in the coming weeks/months, Hue Developments starts to feel the pressure to get The Connolly started.
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Plans change…I don’t see this as disrespectful to city staff that worked on the plan.
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Plans change…I don’t see this as disrespectful to city staff that worked on the plan.
It nullifies a huge portion of the secondary plan. I can't see how that's not disrespectful, not to mention the community members who spent countless hours engaging with the city.
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Old Posted Sep 2, 2021, 11:25 PM
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Unfortunately for the secondary plan, money talks. Developers want taller more profitable buildings. Yes, shorter buildings have their advantage. I mean look at Europe, little to no tall builders and extremely vibrant cities. But if the city doesn't approve taller builds, developers in these areas are willing to walk away and take their business to other cities that will allow it.
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It nullifies a huge portion of the secondary plan. I can't see how that's not disrespectful, not to mention the community members who spent countless hours engaging with the city.
By community members do you mean the Durand Neighbourhood Association? I'm glad this height B.S. is basically been tossed out mostly because of how it all came to be in the first place.
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Old Posted Sep 3, 2021, 12:36 AM
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No sweat off my back if city staff and community members feel disrespected. Odd thing to be concerned about.
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No sweat off my back if city staff and community members feel disrespected. Odd thing to be concerned about.
My thoughts exactly. If staff don't like it they can move on. They work for us and they can be replaced.
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My thoughts exactly. If staff don't like it they can move on. They work for us and they can be replaced.
It's about the toxic workplace of city hall where council constantly disrespects staff in such a way that is not acceptable in a professional environment.
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Old Posted Sep 4, 2021, 6:06 AM
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It's about the toxic workplace of city hall where council constantly disrespects staff in such a way that is not acceptable in a professional environment.
It no different than any workplace. The bosses, in this case councilors make the final decisions. If people can't handle their bosses making decisions without getting upset or depressed they might want to try out self employment. Staff are there to advise council or management, they can take that advice or reject it as they please. In the real world you do what your told or you move on.
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It no different than any workplace. The bosses, in this case councilors make the final decisions. If people can't handle their bosses making decisions without getting upset or depressed they might want to try out self employment. Staff are there to advise council or management, they can take that advice or reject it as they please. In the real world you do what your told or you move on.
It's a known fact that city hall in Hamilton is one of the most toxic workplaces in the city. There is a well documented and public examples of bad behaviour toward staff, being rude to them, and being forced to do and deal with things that they shouldn't. Having spoken to staff from Hamilton, Burlington, Oakville, Waterloo and Toronto, is clear to me that probably the best city to work for in terms of a respectful environment is Waterloo, and worst is Hamilton. This isn't a single incident, this is another item along a long list of people's work being tossed out as not important. That's a 1950s way of thinking of work, and is completely incompatible with today's work culture. If this is the way you work in your professional workplace then I advise you to move jobs because that is an incredibly bad for your health workplace.
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Old Posted Sep 4, 2021, 3:54 PM
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From what I’ve heard some of the worst municipalities to work for are Stouffville, Burlington, Richmond Hill, and Hamilton. Burlington and Stouffville have very difficult mayors to deal with and Hamilton and Richmond Hill are full of challenging councillors.

Toronto has a few painful councillors too but they are less common.

Burlington’s problem is the mayor basically wants to ban new development in the town and that puts planners in a very challenging position, Stouffville mayor is off his rocker entirely and is very egocentric, Richmond hill has some councillors that love to grandstand and have corruption issues, and Hamilton, well, it’s Hamilton.
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From what I’ve heard some of the worst municipalities to work for are Stouffville, Burlington, Richmond Hill, and Hamilton. Burlington and Stouffville have very difficult mayors to deal with and Hamilton and Richmond Hill are full of challenging councillors.

Toronto has a few painful councillors too but they are less common.

Burlington’s problem is the mayor basically wants to ban new development in the town and that puts planners in a very challenging position, Stouffville mayor is off his rocker entirely and is very egocentric, Richmond hill has some councillors that love to grandstand and have corruption issues, and Hamilton, well, it’s Hamilton.
In Marianne Meed Ward's defence, that's exactly what she campaigned on. The citizens of Burlington don't want Burlington turning into a Mississauga or Oakville, and they voted her in on that exact understanding.
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It's apparently not just council meddling in Hamilton, but a legacy of poor staff management and leaders who get away with it.

Anecdotally, I know of two people who left senior positions because of issues and stress caused by the behaviours of their superiors.
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Old Posted Sep 4, 2021, 5:38 PM
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Taken September 4, 2021.

Figured I should grab a picture of this lot before the imminent groundbreaking...

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It's a known fact that city hall in Hamilton is one of the most toxic workplaces in the city. There is a well documented and public examples of bad behaviour toward staff, being rude to them, and being forced to do and deal with things that they shouldn't. Having spoken to staff from Hamilton, Burlington, Oakville, Waterloo and Toronto, is clear to me that probably the best city to work for in terms of a respectful environment is Waterloo, and worst is Hamilton. This isn't a single incident, this is another item along a long list of people's work being tossed out as not important. That's a 1950s way of thinking of work, and is completely incompatible with today's work culture. If this is the way you work in your professional workplace then I advise you to move jobs because that is an incredibly bad for your health workplace.
Those buildings that these people work in have doors. If they don't like it they can move on, just don't let the door hit them in the ass on the way out.

I don't know what fantasy land you work in but in the real world the people who pay the bills get to make the rules and with most workplaces you do what you are told or move on. They don't care about your feelings.
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I don't know what fantasy land you work in but in the real world the people who pay the bills get to make the rules and with most workplaces you do what you are told or move on. They don't care about your feelings.
Aren't taxpayers the ones paying the bills?
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Passed this site on Thursday, September 2nd.

It definitely looks like they've been doing some initial site prep.











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I guess we can show this as "Under Construction".
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Great to hear. Worth noting the new render in the bottom right corner.
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