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Old Posted Feb 24, 2019, 12:59 PM
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These buildings will age badly, and look really messy when all kinds of patio furniture/BBQ units get displayed on the balconies.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2019, 7:03 AM
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As seen from Burrard Street.

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Feb.26 '19, my pic
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2019, 7:23 AM
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Yeah it looked a lot shorter when I saw it a few days ago.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2019, 7:29 AM
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It's just weird. Usually we see buildings get bigger and bigger and their presence grows. Here it's all in reverse.



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Old Posted Feb 28, 2019, 9:11 PM
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It's just weird. Usually we see buildings get bigger and bigger and their presence grows. Here it's all in reverse.



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Why'd they decide to go through the trouble of demolishing the entire building instead of infill or reno?
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2019, 10:17 PM
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Why'd they decide to go through the trouble of demolishing the entire building instead of infill or reno?
The developers are betting on a specific South-east Asian demographic to dump their cash and arguably a family member or two into the new building to the point that somehow they turn a profit. These are people who have no reason to spend money on an otherwise renovated hotel room.
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Why'd they decide to go through the trouble of demolishing the entire building instead of infill or reno?
Seriously? That has been discussed to death on this thread
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The developers are betting on a specific South-east Asian demographic to dump their cash and arguably a family member or two into the new building to the point that somehow they turn a profit. These are people who have no reason to spend money on an otherwise renovated hotel room.
Filipinos?
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Seriously? That has been discussed to death on this thread
old topic; read back man.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2019, 6:41 AM
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See the difference? Landmark visible on the left of the January pic. Gone in the March pic. About 11 or 12 floors removed in about 8 weeks. As seen from Hastings Mill Park.

And what is newly visible on the left of the March pic is 1188 Bidwell (with white crane).





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^ I didn't realize that there were mountains on the other side of downtown! What a great difference the demolition of the Empire Landmark Hotel is making.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2019, 6:59 PM
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^ I didn't realize that there were mountains on the other side of downtown! What a great difference the demolition of the Empire Landmark Hotel is making.
Now that you mentioned it, I'm beginning to see the mountains too! Wow they were so hidden before!


Looks like downtown just went through a clear cut with stumps and two tree trunks left.
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^ I didn't realize that there were mountains on the other side of downtown! What a great difference the demolition of the Empire Landmark Hotel is making.
You weren't able to see the mountains because the ugliness of the Empire Landmark Hotel blinded you before. Now you can see!

I'm being fatuous but I really thought the Empire Landmark Hotel was the ugliest building downtown and even though it's being replaced by something generic in it's place, I think we have a decent amount of exciting unique buildings going up downtown to make up for it (the butterfly, Vancouver house, etc).
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Old Posted Mar 8, 2019, 7:25 PM
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You weren't able to see the mountains because the ugliness of the Empire Landmark Hotel blinded you before. Now you can see!

I'm being fatuous but I really thought the Empire Landmark Hotel was the ugliest building downtown and even though it's being replaced by something generic in it's place, I think we have a decent amount of exciting unique buildings going up downtown to make up for it (the butterfly, Vancouver house, etc).
Ever heard of renovation and recladding? No point wasting a good structure.

By your logic the entire West End should be flattened.
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2019, 1:50 AM
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Ever heard of renovation and recladding? No point wasting a good structure.
Recladding the landmark would be both a waste of a building AND uglier than people already said it was.
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Ever heard of renovation and recladding? No point wasting a good structure.

By your logic the entire West End should be flattened.
It wasn't a good structure. If we get a medium sized earthquake quite a bit of the West End will be flattened.
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Like the west end, gastown also has many poorly built buildings. But doesn't mean therefor we should tear it down necessarily
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Like the west end, gastown also has many poorly built buildings. But doesn't mean therefor we should tear it down necessarily
I agree, if it's possible to retrofit the building to improve its seismic performance, it can avoid requiring the building to be torn down. The huge woodframe buildings of Gastown have potentially better seismic performance than a lot of the 1960s and 70s concrete structures in the West End, for example. That's especially true if they're retrofitted with cross-bracing. Take a look at the Leckie Building at the corner of Cambie and Water, for example, which has steel cables running at 45 degrees right through the building's frame, anchored deep under the basement.

Even in Gastown we're seeing buildings being redeveloped behind the façade, like 155 Water Street under construction now. Ignoring the potential loss of life that will result from not having buildings seismically improved doesn't seem to be a responsible option.

City Council have taken the lead with adding seismic props to the base of the Vancity building (now the West Annex), and demolishing the 1970s East Wing of City Hall, but they haven't yet found a way of requiring private owners to upgrade their properties. The one exception is if an owner wants to make improvements or change use - then the code requirements kick in. That's why the Landmark is coming down - if it had been possible to retrofit it at a reasonable cost that would see the investment returned, that seems likely to have been the preferred development option. The fact that it's coming down seems to suggest that it wasn't a viable option.

EDIT - And as if someone was listening - The Vancouver Sun report that City Council are now going to consider making private owners improve properties.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2019, 4:30 AM
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14 floors in 13 weeks.



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