Calgary International Airport II - Page 198

Bigtime · #**3941** Posted **Nov 4, 2015, 12:37 AM**

BH Air was definitely operating a RAF flight.

cyeg66 · #**3942** Posted **Nov 4, 2015, 12:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by Bigtime

BH Air was definitely operating a RAF flight.

Yup, just talked to him heading out to Brize Norton. Also noticed Rouge 1873 was a 763 from LAS, seasonal bump in seats, I guess.

B767300ER · #**3943** Posted **Nov 4, 2015, 2:31 AM**

Some details from the WestJet quarterly conference call this morning:

Wet lease likely for Alberta Hawaii flights until ETOPS certification is achieved, small window that it won't be needed if aircraft get certified but lease is already lined up.
No mention of A/C type or who it would be leased from.

WS looking at cost recovery from Boeing due to 767 delays.

MRO picked by Boeing, new facility had challenges with experienced staff and manpower.

Many of us knew a lot of this already, but I'm glad that the management team mentioned it on the call. Kudos to the Analysts for asking the right questions too.

Looking for more 767's

767 not in longer term plan, will look at Boeing and Airbus for other wide body options.

Lead time for new wide body aircraft is long, aircraft that are 10 years old can be had at half the price it was coming off the line.

Not on the call today but I did hear back in the summer that when Boeing took delivery of the first aircraft they noted that engine swaps had occurred....

Anyway I only listened to some of the Analysts call but not the media call so can't speak to what was mentioned on that one.

Peace

thenoflyzone · #**3944** Posted **Nov 4, 2015, 1:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by B767300ER

Some details from the WestJet quarterly conference call this morning:

Wet lease likely for Alberta Hawaii flights until ETOPS certification is achieved, small window that it won't be needed if aircraft get certified but lease is already lined up.
No mention of A/C type or who it would be leased from.

WS looking at cost recovery from Boeing due to 767 delays.

MRO picked by Boeing, new facility had challenges with experienced staff and manpower.

Many of us knew a lot of this already, but I'm glad that the management team mentioned it on the call. Kudos to the Analysts for asking the right questions too.

Looking for more 767's

767 not in longer term plan, will look at Boeing and Airbus for other wide body options.

Lead time for new wide body aircraft is long, aircraft that are 10 years old can be had at half the price it was coming off the line.

Not on the call today but I did hear back in the summer that when Boeing took delivery of the first aircraft they noted that engine swaps had occurred....

Anyway I only listened to some of the Analysts call but not the media call so can't speak to what was mentioned on that one.

Peace

You forgot the "piece de resistance" !

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/westjet-profit-increase-calgary-1.3301206

Surrealplaces · #**3945** Posted **Nov 4, 2015, 3:12 PM**

Someone had mentioned it once, but I don't recall it myself. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by yyc_engineer

How would that even be possible (without a massive detour), unless you were flying to the Maritimes?

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Originally Posted by lubicon

All I have been able to find so far is that for a period of time Cubana was not permitted to overfly the U.S. I don't see anything about Canadian airlines having the same retrictions on their way to/from Cuba.

1960-1988 - Cubana restricted from U.S airspace entirely.
1988-2007 - flights restricted from U.S. airspace until ~ New York, then allowed directly north in a defined corridor until reaching Canada.

Since 2007 it sounds like most restrictions have been lifted.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=Mx2NCgA...%20overflights%20united%20states&f=false

Johnny Aussie · #**3946** Posted **Nov 4, 2015, 7:32 PM**

Didn't see these posted yet.

Domestic was the bright spot in September

http://www.yyc.com/en-us/media/factsfigures/passengerstatistics.aspx

Overall up 2.1% YTD up 1.8%
Domestic up 3.4% YTD up 2.3%
Transborder down 0.1% down 0.8%
International down 3.4% YTD up 3.8%

Sept 2015 had over 27,000 more pax than Sept 2014.

craner · #**3947** Posted **Nov 4, 2015, 7:56 PM**

^Actually surprised the numbers aren't worse. This is fairly positive IMO.

#**3948** Posted **Nov 4, 2015, 8:29 PM**

For the sake of the sanity of all parties involved, seriously hoping WS' interim lift will not be the epic fail that was Thomas Cook.

Johnny Aussie · #**3949** Posted **Nov 4, 2015, 9:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by craner

^Actually surprised the numbers aren't worse. This is fairly positive IMO.

Agreed. Compared to every other airport in the region doing very well.

As for international... It was down only about 3,500 passengers for the whole month. Always hard to figure that out because of it all being lumped into one. Would be nice to at least get a break down by scheduled/charter or by region... maybe Europe and "other." Be a bit tricky to post Asia on its own for the one flight to NRT.
The UK stats posted indicate that total market was flat in September.
Also, FRA had lost its one weekly on TS.
Sun destination flying makes up a huge chunk of international for many airports in Canada.
There was definitely more sun flying in Sept this year than last but probably not filling the planes as much.

In any event... like I said previously even though YYC is losing the extra 4 weekly on AC to LHR, next summer to Europe will have plenty of extra seats thanks to KLM, Edelweiss and Westjet.

Transborder was essentially flat down just about 200 pax. Statistically insignificant.

MrBigStuff · #**3950** Posted **Nov 11, 2015, 4:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by Acey

For the sake of the sanity of all parties involved, seriously hoping WS' interim lift will not be the epic fail that was Thomas Cook.

That's weird that Thomas Cook would fail - because every other plane that took off out of YYZ was a plane with the Thomas Cook logo all over it.

Mind you that was in late 2010 when I was there during a plane change and I saw a lot of these planes taking off.

thebus · #**3951** Posted **Nov 11, 2015, 6:21 AM**

http://airlineroute.net/2015/11/11/ac-sfolax-s16/

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From 01MAY16, Air Canada mainline to operate following routes, instead of rouge:

Calgary – Los Angeles 2 daily A320 (1 on Saturdays)

LAX reverting back to mainline as more Rogue gets shifted to east ward?

#**3952** Posted **Nov 12, 2015, 10:53 AM**

Holy shyyyyyyyytttt. Hainan.

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Starting June 2016, the Haikou-based carrier will fly its Airbus A330 or Boeing 787 Dreamliner from Beijing to Calgary, the fourth largest city in Canada, according to an announcement released Thursday on the website of the CAAC.

http://www.chinaaviationdaily.com/news/48/48804.html

#**3953** Posted **Nov 12, 2015, 11:07 AM**

Hainan: 10 787-8's currently in the fleet with 30 787-9's on order. 9 A332's at 36J/186Y and 11 A333's at 32J/260Y with 3 more 333's on order.

YYC-PEK obviously no issue for any of these frames.

Bigtime · #**3954** Posted **Nov 12, 2015, 1:40 PM**

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT.

Yes!

yyc_engineer · #**3955** Posted **Nov 12, 2015, 3:28 PM**

I hope it's on a 787. We'd have 6 daily 787's!

evolv · #**3956** Posted **Nov 12, 2015, 4:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by yyc_engineer

I hope it's on a 787. We'd have 6 daily 787's!

Might need some diversity in aircraft type, though... A new tail is welcome news.

A333 has been around YYC for a long time with AC's LHR and FRA routes but soon to be no more with AC swapping in 787's on these routes.

thebus · #**3957** Posted **Nov 12, 2015, 4:16 PM**

WS interlines with HU currently. Any chance we'll see that changed to a codeshare as HU adds more Canadian routes or will the interline agreement provide enough feed from the Canadian side?

thenoflyzone · #**3958** Posted **Nov 12, 2015, 4:24 PM**

Not a total surprise, as there were rumors last month. Plus, as I said, this is tit for tat, ref. when HU was interested in YUL and CA jumped on it first.

Interesting to see if they get decent slot times out of PEK, and how much this will affect AC's NRT run.

yyc_engineer · #**3959** Posted **Nov 12, 2015, 4:47 PM**

Wait a minute..would this be the first time (in recent memory) that YYC were to get a new airline before YVR? And to Asia to boot!

Would be smart for Hainan (HU) and Westjet to team up on codeshares. Not just for Western Canada, but also to other HU stations (SFO/LAX). Maybe even start SEA on the Q's!

Interesting that HU does not fly to India. With their growing network they should be able to support daily DEL and BOM no?

hoboman27 · #**3960** Posted **Nov 12, 2015, 4:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by yyc_engineer

Wait a minute..would this be the first time (in recent memory) that YYC were to get a new airline before YVR? And to Asia to boot!

Would be smart for Hainan (HU) and Westjet to team up on codeshares. Not just for Western Canada, but also to other HU stations (SFO/LAX). Maybe even start SEA on the Q's!

Interesting that HU does not fly to India. With their growing network they should be able to support daily DEL and BOM no?

Well Hainan's flying to Vancouver next year too, that was announced a while back. A330s
Forgot to add, that service is to Tianjin not PEK