340 Parkdale Ave | 127m | 38f | Proposed

[S-Man]

I like the top of that building. And the colour? Kryptonite!

[Ottawan]

Originally Posted by gjhall

Um, if you look carefully, the only part of the ground floor in that shot that the developer owns is left side where the trees are on the sidewalk, which I believe is were they will retain the Orange gallery? The rest of the front is on the right side is the Carleton Tavern and another building (kids clothing store?) which isn't part of the development.

The lot for this, afterall is an L shape, so the frontages on Parkdale, Hamilton and Spencer would be the unknowns from this drawing...

Perhaps we all better look before we jump here...

However you look they're destroying alot of what should be considered heritage. This on top of a building design that doesn't match it's surroundings - if it took more cues from the Parkdale Lofts, I'd be much happier. I'm definitely afraid of another horrible teal glass building, which from this rendering is certainly possible.

[citizen j]

Originally Posted by gjhall

Um, if you look carefully, the only part of the ground floor in that shot that the developer owns is left side where the trees are on the sidewalk, which I believe is were they will retain the Orange gallery? The rest of the front is on the right side is the Carleton Tavern and another building (kids clothing store?) which isn't part of the development.

The lot for this, afterall is an L shape, so the frontages on Parkdale, Hamilton and Spencer would be the unknowns from this drawing...

Perhaps we all better look before we jump here...

So that big blank wall isn't theirs? Alright, I reserve judgment until I see more podium details. I'm not in love with the design as is, but I think something like it (if not this actual tower) is inevitable here. This neighbourhood, like many pre-war inner suburbs, is going to see increasing pressure to accommodate development on this scale. I keep wondering how long it's going to take that surface parking lot at the Montreal Road end of the Cummings Bridge to disappear under a high-density redevelopment.

[Jamaican-Phoenix]

This development needs some more info before I pass full judgement on it, but it would fit in rather nicely IF Tunney's Pasture was more dense and developed in height. The feds keep promising to do that, but we never see any progress. Typical.

[Harley613]

less likely to see any new fed construction there than ever...what with harper planning to shrink the private sector through retiree attrition

[reidjr]

Originally Posted by Harley613

less likely to see any new fed construction there than ever...what with harper planning to shrink the private sector through retiree attrition

I don't know if thats really true how many new office buildings have been built in the last 20 years very few now we have 3 uc in gatineau 1 uc in downtown and 1 in the train yards.

[McC]

Originally Posted by reidjr

I don't know if thats really true how many new office buildings have been built in the last 20 years very few

really?
3 phases of Constitution Square, Minto Phase3, the CBC building, 131 Queen, the BMO building on Laurier, The new EDC building (still under construction but now almost complete, and I'm going to assume your downtown u/c is the Lorne replacement)...

that's just downtown, and just off the top of my head, and I can think of 8 substantial office buildings, mostly filled with public servants. The PS has ballooned in the past ten years, and that growth phase is now over. We may not see much contraction (I think this government is more talk than walk) but we'll definitely see curtailed growth.

[Admiral Nelson]

Originally Posted by McC

that's just downtown, and just off the top of my head, and I can think of 8 substantial office buildings, mostly filled with public servants. The PS has ballooned in the past ten years, and that growth phase is now over. We may not see much contraction (I think this government is more talk than walk) but we'll definitely see curtailed growth.

We'll see lots of growth in "Federal Protective Services" at the expense of the rest of the PS.

[McC]

Originally Posted by Harley613

less likely to see any new fed construction there than ever...what with harper planning to shrink the private sector through retiree attrition

But with the housing market still so hot on the West Side, and the feds looking for funds, now would be a real good time for the feds to consider selling off un-used lands like those on the west sides of Parkdale and Banting in Tunney's Pasture for private development.

[reidjr]

Originally Posted by McC

really?
3 phases of Constitution Square, Minto Phase3, the CBC building, 131 Queen, the BMO building on Laurier, The new EDC building (still under construction but now almost complete, and I'm going to assume your downtown u/c is the Lorne replacement)...

that's just downtown, and just off the top of my head, and I can think of 8 substantial office buildings, mostly filled with public servants. The PS has ballooned in the past ten years, and that growth phase is now over. We may not see much contraction (I think this government is more talk than walk) but we'll definitely see curtailed growth.

I think there is a difference in terms of new buildings between the gov funding it from the start and a building beeing built then the gov moves in.I maybe wrong but the edc/minto 131 queen were not known from the start they would house gov workers while the building under construction now it is known they will be gov buildings.

[gjhall]

Originally Posted by reidjr

I think there is a difference in terms of new buildings between the gov funding it from the start and a building beeing built then the gov moves in.I maybe wrong but the edc/minto 131 queen were not known from the start they would house gov workers while the building under construction now it is known they will be gov buildings.

131 Queen was purpose built PPP for Parliament swing space during renovation/reconstruction on the Hill.

[gjhall]

Originally Posted by McC

But with the housing market still so hot on the West Side, and the feds looking for funds, now would be a real good time for the feds to consider selling off un-used lands like those on the west sides of Parkdale and Banting in Tunney's Pasture for private development.

Definitely agree with you here.

[reidjr]

Originally Posted by gjhall

131 Queen was purpose built PPP for Parliament swing space during renovation/reconstruction on the Hill.

Ok then i was wrong.

[McC]

Originally Posted by reidjr

I think there is a difference in terms of new buildings between the gov funding it from the start and a building beeing built then the gov moves in.I maybe wrong but the edc/minto 131 queen were not known from the start they would house gov workers while the building under construction now it is known they will be gov buildings.

you don't think Minto knew exactly what PWGSC's needs in the core were before they started the process to build Phase 3? I do; they didn't get to where they are by just building on a whim.

[drawarc]

Although rendering only shows it from side perspective and not entire proposal, tower component of Attika looks good. Don't know if Hintonburg is where a new tallest would fit though.

[reidjr]

Originally Posted by McC

you don't think Minto knew exactly what PWGSC's needs in the core were before they started the process to build Phase 3? I do; they didn't get to where they are by just building on a whim.

Yes your 100% correct i take back what i said and yes there has been plnety of devlopments the last 20 years.

[ServiceGuy]

As far as I'm concerned this entire proposal is "pie in the sky" thinking. IF the city would approve it and IF Tega had the capital to finance it, Tarion would require such a huge amount as a deposit to make the project unrealistic. If Tega had a few 16 to 20 story projects in their portfolio I might say okay, possibly, but right now... no way. 12 million dollar abatement, no previous high rise experience, plus Ottawa's tallest building equals no way in my opinion. I would love to see a new tallest but this won't be it.

[reidjr]

Originally Posted by ServiceGuy

As far as I'm concerned this entire proposal is "pie in the sky" thinking. IF the city would approve it and IF Tega had the capital to finance it, Tarion would require such a huge amount as a deposit to make the project unrealistic. If Tega had a few 16 to 20 story projects in their portfolio I might say okay, possibly, but right now... no way. 12 million dollar abatement, no previous high rise experience, plus Ottawa's tallest building equals no way in my opinion. I would love to see a new tallest but this won't be it.

It likely won't happen but i think its good that this is beeing talked about along with other taller buildings maybe just maybe this will say more and more groups wanting to build taller.

[HintonburgCA]

For those of you who follow such things, we've obtained and posted the Paterson report on groundwater contamination that our Councillor has referred to. It seems to indicate, as we thought, that contamination is very slowly improving as a result of the remediation efforts Honeywell put in place several years ago. It looks like residents are going to be asked to make a choice between poisoning their community or accepting a 36-storey tower they may not want. As far as we can tell, there's no rush to clean the site up immediately. Under the supervision of the Ministry of the Environment, remediation efforts seem to be working. We'd expect that if the situation had changed suddenly, the Ministry would have come down like a bag of hammers.

[gjhall]

There was an ad in the Ottawa Citizen over the weekend for pre-registration. "Own the View" is their catchphrase...pretty aggressive strategy considering they haven't even filed an application.