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Old Posted Jul 13, 2010, 2:09 PM
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Hello all, I'm new to posting anything on the Dallas thread, I'm from Cali, I live in the Los Angeles\ Long Beach metro area in the city of Long Beach, I'm planning on making the move to the Dallas \ Ft. Worth area by the end of the year. It's been a hard decision for me to leave Cali, I'm born and raised in the Los Angeles area my whole life. I've been a lot of places in my life and I haven't been to a place that I can say has better weather, a better natural setting and that's really as culturally diverse. However, quality of life is declining, our state tax is 10%, the cost of living is extremely high, commute times are ridiculous and as a family man with 2 young children I'm really beginning to feel the effects of living in a 17 million person metro region. Crowding, weakening education systems, median home prices of 350,000 to 450,000 just to get a small two or 3 bedroom home in a not so decent area with no yard because of no room to put a patch of green space between houses. So you see how my reasons for leaving out weigh my reasons for staying. I've been to dallas a few times before and even spent 6 weeks in the area on job related business so I know what to expect as far as the differences between the two cities, my question for forumers is, what are some of the nicer areas to live? Keeping in account that I work for Department of Homeland Security, my work would be in the city of dallas, I don't mind a commute of 30 minutes or so. I'm looking to spend between 150,000 to 200,000 on a home but will probably rent for the first year I'm there so I can have a complete feel of things. I'm 29 going on 30, my wife is 27 and we have 2 kids, age 7 and a little one who turns 3 on Halloween. I've heard Fortworth is nice as well as Arlington and Plano but how far of a commute to my work location would those places be? Also any other suggestions are appreciated and thank you in advance

Grapevine and Coppell are nice and boast good schools as well.

Here's one example: http://prutexas.com/properties/17_310003/5112_Heatherdale_Drive_Grapevine_TX_76051

And it's corresponding school: http://www.greatschools.org/cgi-bin/tx/other/3087#students
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2010, 1:22 PM
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Hello all, I'm new to posting anything on the Dallas thread, I'm from Cali, I live in the Los Angeles\ Long Beach metro area in the city of Long Beach, I'm planning on making the move to the Dallas \ Ft. Worth area by the end of the year. It's been a hard decision for me to leave Cali, I'm born and raised in the Los Angeles area my whole life. I've been a lot of places in my life and I haven't been to a place that I can say has better weather, a better natural setting and that's really as culturally diverse. However, quality of life is declining, our state tax is 10%, the cost of living is extremely high, commute times are ridiculous and as a family man with 2 young children I'm really beginning to feel the effects of living in a 17 million person metro region. Crowding, weakening education systems, median home prices of 350,000 to 450,000 just to get a small two or 3 bedroom home in a not so decent area with no yard because of no room to put a patch of green space between houses. So you see how my reasons for leaving out weigh my reasons for staying. I've been to dallas a few times before and even spent 6 weeks in the area on job related business so I know what to expect as far as the differences between the two cities, my question for forumers is, what are some of the nicer areas to live? Keeping in account that I work for Department of Homeland Security, my work would be in the city of dallas, I don't mind a commute of 30 minutes or so. I'm looking to spend between 150,000 to 200,000 on a home but will probably rent for the first year I'm there so I can have a complete feel of things. I'm 29 going on 30, my wife is 27 and we have 2 kids, age 7 and a little one who turns 3 on Halloween. I've heard Fortworth is nice as well as Arlington and Plano but how far of a commute to my work location would those places be? Also any other suggestions are appreciated and thank you in advance
I've lived in Arlington, Lewisville, Euless, Denton and now Dallas. I spent alot of time in traffic until I moved to Dallas. In Dallas, you can always take side streets and always bypass the jams. The trade off is DISD. It's a mess except for the Magnet schools which are regularly the best in the nation.

The desirable areas in Dallas are anywhere near White Rock Lake, around the Katy Trail, or North Oak Cliff. The City Center is rapidly improving and now is the time to get in. With the new bridges and the Trinity River Project, the quality of life around downtown will only get better.

The rough areas are Northwest Dallas, old East Dallas, Fair Park, South East Dallas, North East Dallas(Forest and LBJ) and Vickery Meadows (Park Lane and Greenville). From your description, I think you would like the M streets, which is south of Mockingbird around Greenville ave. Lot of stone bungalows and you are close to the restaurants and bars of Greenville and inbetween White Rock Lake and the Katy Trail. You can also catch the DART light rail station at Mockingbird Station to downtown, north to plano, or to the State Fair of Texas (which you will come to love!)

I live in North Oak Cliff which has old homes, big trees and great neighbors. Our town center is the Bishop Arts District.

www.katytraildallas.org
http://www.bishopartsdistrict.com/
http://www.whiterocklake.org/
http://www.trinityrivercorridor.org/

Good luck!
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2010, 4:43 PM
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I know I'm not supposed to say this on a forum littered with urban purists, but I've always liked Dallas.
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2010, 8:18 PM
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I live in Houston. While there is no mistake that Houston is a much bigger city than Dallas is, I much prefer Dallas to live. Does that make me a trader? lol
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2010, 6:00 AM
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Hello all, I'm new to posting anything on the Dallas thread, I'm from Cali, I live in the Los Angeles\ Long Beach metro area in the city of Long Beach, I'm planning on making the move to the Dallas \ Ft. Worth area by the end of the year...
Arlington (and any mid-city for that matter) are very convenient in that they are in between Ft Worth, Dallas and DFW Airport. If you have a car it's a great area to go anywhere but they are lightyears behind on public transportation. 360 in Arlington is always jammed up. If you're going to work in Dallas, living in Dallas would be better. DallasGreg gave good suggestions.

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Old Posted Jul 18, 2010, 5:44 PM
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Hello all, I'm new to posting anything on the Dallas thread, I'm from Cali, I live in the Los Angeles\ Long Beach metro area in the city of Long Beach, I'm planning on making the move to the Dallas \ Ft. Worth area by the end of the year.
commuting from Plano to dallas doesn't take that long. I would recommend any suburbs north of dallas county, like Plano, Frisco, Richardson, etc.
Dallas and Arlington have really bad school systems, must avoid.
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2010, 6:08 AM
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Hello all, I'm new to posting anything on the Dallas thread, I'm from Cali, I live in the Los Angeles\ Long Beach metro area in the city of Long Beach, I'm planning on making the move to the Dallas \ Ft. Worth area by the end of the year. It's been a hard decision for me to leave Cali, I'm born and raised in the Los Angeles area my whole life. I've been a lot of places in my life and I haven't been to a place that I can say has better weather, a better natural setting and that's really as culturally diverse. However, quality of life is declining, our state tax is 10%, the cost of living is extremely high, commute times are ridiculous and as a family man with 2 young children I'm really beginning to feel the effects of living in a 17 million person metro region. Crowding, weakening education systems, median home prices of 350,000 to 450,000 just to get a small two or 3 bedroom home in a not so decent area with no yard because of no room to put a patch of green space between houses. So you see how my reasons for leaving out weigh my reasons for staying. I've been to dallas a few times before and even spent 6 weeks in the area on job related business so I know what to expect as far as the differences between the two cities, my question for forumers is, what are some of the nicer areas to live? Keeping in account that I work for Department of Homeland Security, my work would be in the city of dallas, I don't mind a commute of 30 minutes or so. I'm looking to spend between 150,000 to 200,000 on a home but will probably rent for the first year I'm there so I can have a complete feel of things. I'm 29 going on 30, my wife is 27 and we have 2 kids, age 7 and a little one who turns 3 on Halloween. I've heard Fortworth is nice as well as Arlington and Plano but how far of a commute to my work location would those places be? Also any other suggestions are appreciated and thank you in advance
it sounds like you're moving for all the right reasons. because your kids are young, the school district will be important in your decision. generally speaking the city of dallas, irving, arlington have poor reputations for their schools. better choices would be north of dallas in plano or frisco or northeast in southlake.
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Old Posted Aug 16, 2010, 11:30 PM
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Hello all, I'm new to posting anything on the Dallas thread, I'm from Cali, I live in the Los Angeles\ Long Beach metro area in the city of Long Beach, I'm planning on making the move to the Dallas \ Ft. Worth area by the end of the year. It's been a hard decision for me to leave Cali, I'm born and raised in the Los Angeles area my whole life. I've been a lot of places in my life and I haven't been to a place that I can say has better weather, a better natural setting and that's really as culturally diverse. However, quality of life is declining, our state tax is 10%, the cost of living is extremely high, commute times are ridiculous and as a family man with 2 young children I'm really beginning to feel the effects of living in a 17 million person metro region. Crowding, weakening education systems, median home prices of 350,000 to 450,000 just to get a small two or 3 bedroom home in a not so decent area with no yard because of no room to put a patch of green space between houses. So you see how my reasons for leaving out weigh my reasons for staying. I've been to dallas a few times before and even spent 6 weeks in the area on job related business so I know what to expect as far as the differences between the two cities, my question for forumers is, what are some of the nicer areas to live? Keeping in account that I work for Department of Homeland Security, my work would be in the city of dallas, I don't mind a commute of 30 minutes or so. I'm looking to spend between 150,000 to 200,000 on a home but will probably rent for the first year I'm there so I can have a complete feel of things. I'm 29 going on 30, my wife is 27 and we have 2 kids, age 7 and a little one who turns 3 on Halloween. I've heard Fortworth is nice as well as Arlington and Plano but how far of a commute to my work location would those places be? Also any other suggestions are appreciated and thank you in advance
If you want to live in Dallas proper to be closer to your work, one of the best neighborhoods in the City of Dallas to consider would be the "M" Streets area. I think another poster mentioned this as well.

The "M" Streets are roughly bounded by Mockingbird Lane to the North, North Central Expressway to the West, Abrams Road to the East, and Vanderbilt to the South. The area is called "M" Streets because so many of the streets in the neighborhood begin with "M" - Mockingbird, Monticello, McCommas, Merrimac, Martel, Matalee, Morningside, Mercedes, Marquita, and Malcolm. There are other street names, too, but you get the picture of how the moniker "M" Streets was derived.

Beautiful original brick Tudor and Traditional style bungalows can be purchased in the price range you are looking for. They would usually be a 2 bedroom 1 bath, maybe 3 bedroom 1 bath and possibly 2 baths just depending. The neighborhood is among the most desirable in Dallas and has seen an enormous amount of gentrification and re-development over the years to the point that it is highly sought after, with half million to million dollar residences heavily interspersed among the original 20's, 30's and 40's era homes. The neighborhood has manicured lawns with beautiful large mature trees throughout, and has parks, golf courses, and libraries located within it with beautiful White Rock Lake nearby.

The neighborhood is literally just across Central Expressway from Highland Park, which is equivalent to Beverly Hills in LA. It is extremely centrally in-town located, being just minutes away from world class shopping (Northpark Center, Highland Park Village, Snider Plaza, Preston Center), Downtown Dallas and all that it has to offer, entertainment venues, cultural amenities, incredible restaurants, etc. It has easy access to anywhere in metro Dallas either by car via Central Expressway or by DART Rail via Mockingbird Station.

If you lease or purchase in the "M" Streets, make sure you are in the area for your 7 year old to attend Stonewall Jackson Elementary School. Stonewall Jackson is among the highest rated schools in the entire State of Texas. Even though it is part of the DISD, it has an incredibly strong parent involvement that has consistently produced some of the highest academic excellence ratings for its student body in the City or the State.

"M" Streets in the Stonewall Jackson school district is the best of all worlds, really. Lots of young families and professionals call the "M" Streets home. Compared to LA, the neighborhood is an absolute steal for what you get! I have lived there for 15 years in my own home and also own a rental property and I highly recommend it. It has basically held steady in home values even during the worst of the downturn and has nowhere to go but up; it is an excellent investment right now as the neighborhood traditionally has seen strong upward appreciation over the years.

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Old Posted Aug 17, 2010, 5:42 AM
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I live in Houston. While there is no mistake that Houston is a much bigger city than Dallas is, I much prefer Dallas to live. Does that make me a trader? lol
Really? Houston is only a bigger city when looking at numbers based on defined municipal limits (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population). But if you use that criteria, Houston only has a population of around 2.2 million (no one ever uses that number do they), and more importantly, San Antonio is bigger than Dallas. Now I know it is pretty much universally accepted that Dallas is way bigger than San Antonio, right?

So really, the number that makes more sense is the MSA, or even the CSA right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_United_States_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_United_States_Combined_Statistical_Areas

So, as you can see from the numbers, it might certainly be a mistake thinking Houston is bigger than Dallas...but I am sure this has been discussed before.
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2010, 2:55 PM
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One huge difference has been the suburbs, DFW suburbs are large cities in their own right as nicely demonstrated by wikipedia.

Places with 200,000 to 499,999 inhabitants
Arlington
Garland
Irving
Plano
Places with 100,000 to 199,999 inhabitants
Carrollton
Denton
Frisco
Grand Prairie
McKinney
Mesquite
Richardson

Sugar Land, for example, does not even have 100,000 residents and Baytown only has 72,000.

Both Houston and DFW have roughly the same metro populations, but Houston has been able to annex much more of the surrounding areas than Dallas. Big-D has been boxed in by huge suburbs that give no ground and Dallas's only real chance to grow is to the south. Also, the fact that Dallas and Fort Worth have grown together makes the comparison between Houston and just Dallas strange. For my generation, DFW has functioned as one big city, last night I met friends in downtown Fort Worth (which is a great place) and tonight we are all going to a Jack Johnson concert in Dallas. I've lived in both Dallas and Houston and I've never had the felling that one was much bigger than the other.
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2010, 4:32 PM
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I lived in Dallas for 10 years, and have been in Houston for 2 years. I can't wait to go back when this project is over. Houston does seem larger in area than Dallas, but Dallas feels more like a city to me.
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2010, 4:33 PM
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One huge difference has been the suburbs, DFW suburbs are large cities in their own right as nicely demonstrated by wikipedia.

Places with 200,000 to 499,999 inhabitants
Arlington
Garland
Irving
Plano
Places with 100,000 to 199,999 inhabitants
Carrollton
Denton
Frisco
Grand Prairie
McKinney
Mesquite
Richardson

Sugar Land, for example, does not even have 100,000 residents and Baytown only has 72,000.

Both Houston and DFW have roughly the same metro populations, but Houston has been able to annex much more of the surrounding areas than Dallas. Big-D has been boxed in by huge suburbs that give no ground and Dallas's only real chance to grow is to the south. Also, the fact that Dallas and Fort Worth have grown together makes the comparison between Houston and just Dallas strange. For my generation, DFW has functioned as one big city, last night I met friends in downtown Fort Worth (which is a great place) and tonight we are all going to a Jack Johnson concert in Dallas. I've lived in both Dallas and Houston and I've never had the felling that one was much bigger than the other.
Houston does have large suburbs but they aren't as defined nor powerful as DFW's (generally). The NW area of Houston metro has around 750,000 that occupy various MUDs and ETJs. Houston generally annexes an area with lots of employment, which is why almost all of the major employment areas are in Houston (uptown, med center, westchase, energy corridor, greenspoint, greenway, etc.).

I think driving through central Houston makes it look bigger because of the multiple skylines and overall size and number of buildings. Dallas certainly has been booming in its core, but so has Houston. Outside of the core, the cities' are pretty similar in layout. However, Houston always "looked" bigger to me.
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just wanting to share a sketch of how the W and mandarin oriental were supposed to look like .... before the financial and credit crisis brought hillwood to it's knees.

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Does anyone know what the construction cranes around I 75 and Forest are building?
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Does anyone know what the construction cranes around I 75 and Forest are building?
That is the expansion of Forest Park Medical Center...

http://www.forestparkmc.com/future/
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I think you will really like Dallas. I did when I moved here 5 years ago and the Metroplex will continue to grow on you. For something in your price range I would consider looking in the Farmers Branch / Carrollton area. They both have good neighborhoods for affordable prices. Also, I know there is some pretty nice / affordable neighborhoods in Grand Prairie. I think Arlington, Fort Worth, and Plano commutes might be a too long. But definitely get some other opinions. Good Luck!!
DO NOT move to Grand Prairie. That area is great for a family however the school system is horrible and there is a huge shortage of private schools in that part of the metroplex. I sugest North Dallas...Lakewood is a great neighborhood, as well as the tollway corridor by Addison/far north Dallas/ Plano. I have lived in that area for 5yrs and love it. Plenty of fine private schools/ parks/ dinning
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I'm going to be in Dallas area for the weekend of November 6th, could anyone tell this first timer a good place to grab construction and skyline shots? I will be primarily in Plano, but I have a rental car so I can get arround.

Additionally, I would love to hit a Texas BBQ place while I am there, the type of place where I feel I will need to eat vegetarian for the next week to compensate for the mass consumption of meat.

Thanks in advance.
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The top of the Platinum Garage at the AAC. You can park in the visitor lot during the day and walk over to the garage and take the stairs to the top. You get good views of Downtown/Uptown and then good views heading out west to Fort Worth.
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I'm going to be in Dallas area for the weekend of November 6th, could anyone tell this first timer a good place to grab construction and skyline shots? I will be primarily in Plano, but I have a rental car so I can get arround.

Additionally, I would love to hit a Texas BBQ place while I am there, the type of place where I feel I will need to eat vegetarian for the next week to compensate for the mass consumption of meat.

Thanks in advance.
I personally love Spring Creek BBQ. They're all over the Dallas area, including Addison and Frisco.
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