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How dare you. I sometimes stop into that McDonald’s, and I am no miscreant. But 8th Ave overall is the last bit of ungentrified Midtown. It’s like a slice of the 80’s in real time. You can, and probably will see anything. I’m ok with that. It’s part of being in the big city.

That being said, Vornado will most certainly add the McDs to its site for development. But not to worry, the White Castle up the block will remain.
I worked near there for a year or so, and as I recall, there was (and still may be) a meth clinic nearby. A lot of its “customers” hung out in that McD.

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Hopefully, they can acquire 494 8th also.




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A single story McDonalds in the heart of midtown Manhattan is diabolical.
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What REALLY needs to happen is for the developer to acquire 257-263 W 34 St (pictured above with the adorable face made from streetlights on its side) so this new corner development can be designed to mask the awful cantilevered 255 W 34 St next door. That would-be ideal and would go a long way in repairing the urban fabric.
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What REALLY needs to happen is for the developer to acquire 257-263 W 34 St (pictured above with the adorable face made from streetlights on its side) so this new corner development can be designed to mask the awful cantilevered 255 W 34 St next door. That would-be ideal and would go a long way in repairing the urban fabric.
I recall researching the ownership on ACRIS a very long time ago and am fairly sure that Vornado owns that little glass box that it built but never did anything with.


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Hopefully the addition of the McDonald's bumps this up over 441'.

Once this area is cleaned up, it will visually merge Hudson Yards with Midtown.

It will be an incredible forest of skyscrapers unlike anything the world has ever known.

Now we just need to rezone HK.
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I recall researching the ownership on ACRIS a very long time ago and am fairly sure that Vornado owns that little glass box that it built but never did anything with.
12 Penn Plaza

I don't believe Vormado owns it. If they did it would already be part of this assemblage. Not only that it's only about 7 years old, not that that means it couldn't be knocked down if the price was right, and the price from Vornado might be right considering it was reportadly built for $90 million (seems really high) and sold for less than $20 million 3 years ago. So considering the original owner lost their shirt and the next owner got a deal, maybe Vornado snags it for another $10-20 million.

It also depends on how much of the lot they could build on considering the ridiculous air rights situation with 255 W.

https://rentnyoffice.com/12-penn-plaza/

https://nyc.marketproof.com/article/offi...-at-12-penn-plaza-10001-on-sep-25th-2023
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I’ll look at ACRIS later.


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I worked near there for a year or so, and as I recall, there was (and still may be) a meth clinic nearby. A lot of its “customers” hung out in that McD.
What, so they shouldn't eat? I've only seen "normal" people in that McDonald's. It hardly matters though. Another McD's will likely replace that one when it closes.

Meanwhile, the new tower progresses...



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Vornado gobbles up McDonald’s, air rights near Penn Station


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Vornado Realty Trust’s large apartment tower planned by Penn Station could potentially be getting even larger.

Over the last few weeks the developer has inked a series of deals near the corner of Eighth Avenue and West 34th Street that could give it tens of thousands of additional square feet for a high-rise planned at the site.

In the most high-profile transaction of the bunch, Vornado gobbled up a longtime and occasionally troubled McDonald’s restaurant for $12 million, according to a deed that appeared in the city register Tuesday. The 9,400-square-foot structure between West 34th and West 35th streets went into contact and closed the same day, March 19, the register shows.

Home to a movie theater in the early 20th century, the current one-story structure on the site was built in 1975, tax records indicate. It’s not clear when McDonald’s arrived in the building, and the Chicago-based company did not return an email for comment by press time.
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But McDonald’s bought the property for an unknown price in 1987, according to the register.

The 47-foot-wide parcel is adjacent to Vornado’s development site, a nine-lot assemblage the firm has put together over the past decade.

The McDonald’s property, part of a dense and bustling neighborhood, can accommodate a 325-foot tall spire and possibly an even taller one if affordable housing is included, based on current zoning.

The fast-food chain has close to 200 locations in the city and does not seem to be planning to turn off its fryers for good.

Documents filed in the register in tandem with the sale suggest the restaurant will be a tenant of Vornado’s going forward and also be guaranteed a retail berth in whatever Vornado builds at the site.
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Vornado, led by chair and CEO Steve Roth, also recently picked up nearly 66,000 square feet of air rights from a pair of properties that abut its development site. The firm snagged 31,000 square feet atop 260 W. 35th St. for $4.4 million and another 34,200 square feet over next-door 254 W. 35th St. for $4.8 million, according to Albert Sultan, the broker with the firm KSR who handled the deals for the sellers. Both sales closed March 18, he said.

The Haddad family sold the rights at 260 W. 35th, and the Cayre family was the seller at 254 W. 35th, according to the register.

In September Vornado told investors it planned to spend $350 million to construct a 475-unit tower at the corner, which faces the Madison Square Garden-Penn Station complex. It was unclear how the trio of recent deals factor into that plan. A Vornado spokesman declined to comment.

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Vornado’s new McDonald’s is infamous for rowdy behavior. For years the site was beset by drug-dealing, drug usage and drinking, based on numerous news reports. One patron lit a fire inside in 2018, while a customer stabbed another in 2021, the reports show.
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What, so they shouldn't eat? I've only seen "normal" people in that McDonald's. It hardly matters though. Another McD's will likely replace that one when it closes.
What is your go-to order at McDonald's, NYguy?

My typical order: Fish sandwich w cheese/ketchup only, 10 McNuggets, french fry, large Coke.

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What is your go-to order at McDonald's, NYguy?

My typical order: Fish sandwich w cheese/ketchup only, 10 McNuggets, french fry, large Coke.


A variation on burger and fries. Had a Big Arch earlier. (From a different McDs)




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I've had enough of these types of facades. I would prefer a plain, glass box to this. But it's probably conceptual at this point.



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The setback looks stupid of course.

I don't get it. Why would the zoning for a wide avenue/wide street corner lot force a required setback? God this 1961 zoning has got to get updated. The same code is what produced that setback cantilevered abortion next door.


Why is this residential again and not office? Seems crazy to waste a big corner lot a block from Penn on a modest apartment building.
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Demo permits have been filed for the McDonald’s.
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Demo permits have been filed for the McDonald’s.
I'm elated that that junk is finally coming down.
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