BC Political Discussion: Election 2024 & 43rd Parliament - Page 35

Bcasey25raptor · #**681** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 7:35 PM**

I take back anything negative I have EVER said about Boomers.

Boomers truly are the MVPs this election

"The poll finds the NDP leads by 13 points in Metro Vancouver and 17 points among the 55-plus age group."
https://globalnews.ca/news/10818467/bc-ndp-favoured-close-race-final-bc-election-poll/

logicbomb · #**682** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 7:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

Who can best perform to being safety back into our cities?

The incidents:

Some party at the federal level that is willing to reform the justice system and build more facilities to jail all violent criminals and mentally ill/drug addicted individuals.

We also need to get race and upbringing out of judicial decisions, especially when it comes to violent crimes and prolific offenders.

Make no mistake. Eby has had a massive screw up when it comes to the drug issues and this is one reason why held out of voting for the NDP (voted Green) but the issues with crime can easily be addressed at the federal level. Every single judge right now deserves to be fired as well.

WarrenC12 · #**683** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 8:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

It's your prerogative. Others are trying to dislodge the real clowns clinging to the wagon.

So... ABC ran on the same platform of cleaning up the homeless/drug/crime problem. How's that going?

BaddieB · #**684** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 8:25 PM**

Looking at how many seats were within X margins in 2017 and 2020

1% - 3 seats (3, 3)
2% - 5 seats (5, 5)
3% - 6 seats (5, 7)
4% - 6.5 seats (6, 7)
5% - 7.5 seats (6, 9)

The NDP is polling around 2 to 3 points ahead. Do with this information as you will.

Migrant_Coconut · #**685** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 8:48 PM**

A lot of Cons are ex-Libs who jumped ship… some of whom (including the party leader) were part of the government responsible for breaking BC’s housing/healthcare and letting all the drug dealers in to begin with.

They made the mess, and now they’re trying to laugh at the Dippers for not cleaning it up fast enough - definitely not the kind of personalities we want back in office.

BaddieB · #**686** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 8:56 PM**

I would say that the Horgan government was complicit in the housing crisis as well for not doing much about it. If Horgan was still in power, I would probably vote Green, or vote NDP very unenthusiastically.

WarrenC12 · #**687** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 9:02 PM**

Yeah the NDP have been in power for 7 years. You don't get an unlimited amount of time to blame the BC Libs for what is wrong in BC in 2024.

seamusmcduff · #**688** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 9:03 PM**

Russil Wvong made a great summary of how much the NDP have done for housing under Eby. I agree that Horgan didn't do enough, but Eby has truly pulled out all the stops. You can expect these changes to have an effect on housing supply a year to 6 months after the changes. I'm assuming that not a single BP submitted under the SSMUH has even been approved yet, since that only happened in June (Outside of Vancouver). Definitely also true for the TOD changes.

https://morehousing.substack.com/p/bc-election

GenWhy? · #**689** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 9:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Yeah the NDP have been in power for 7 years. You don't get an unlimited amount of time to blame the BC Libs for what is wrong in BC in 2024.

Implementing controversial policies in a minority government is never easy or not extremely risky.

GenWhy? · #**690** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 9:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by seamusmcduff

Russil Wvong made a great summary of how much the NDP have done for housing under Eby. I agree that Horgan didn't do enough, but Eby has truly pulled out all the stops. You can expect these changes to have an effect on housing supply a year to 6 months after the changes. I'm assuming that not a single BP submitted under the SSMUH has even been approved yet, since that only happened in June (Outside of Vancouver). Definitely also true for the TOD changes.

https://morehousing.substack.com/p/bc-election

People want a magic wand, unfortunately. Even if I could build today based on the TOA bill I would be able to have people move in until after the election anyway!

WarrenC12 · #**691** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 10:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by GenWhy?

Implementing controversial policies in a minority government is never easy or not extremely risky.

Are you implying the BC NDP had a minority under Horgan's first term? I disagree.

Regardless, their excuses are running out. I say this as somebody who voted for them.

chowhou · #**692** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 10:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Are you implying the BC NDP had a minority under Horgan's first term? I disagree.

Regardless, their excuses are running out. I say this as somebody who voted for them.

Well, they did though. They had a confidence and supply agreement with the Greens (NIMBYs) to support their minority government.

GenWhy? · #**693** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 10:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Are you implying the BC NDP had a minority under Horgan's first term? I disagree.

Regardless, their excuses are running out. I say this as somebody who voted for them.

Interesting.

BaddieB · #**694** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 10:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by chowhou

Well, they did though. They had a confidence and supply agreement with the Greens (NIMBYs) to support their minority government.

That doesn't explain why Horgan did nothing after 2020. It was only until Eby become premier that we got the suite of housing reform laws.

The fact of the matter is, that if you're concerned about housing affordability, one party wants to deregulate, and the other wants more red tape.

whatnext · #**695** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 10:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by BaddieB

That doesn't explain why Horgan did nothing after 2020. It was only until Eby become premier that we got the suite of housing reform laws.

The fact of the matter is, that if you're concerned about housing affordability, one party wants to deregulate, and the other wants more red tape.

Deal with the source of the problem next year and turf out the Trudeau Liberals who goosed the Demand side of the equation with no thought to Supply.

dreambrother808 · #**696** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 11:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

So... ABC ran on the same platform of cleaning up the homeless/drug/crime problem. How's that going?

Also how are the other Conservative provincial governments across the country solving these problems?

Hint: they’re not, and in fact they’re even bigger fuck ups in many other areas.

dreambrother808 · #**697** Posted **Oct 18, 2024, 11:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Deal with the source of the problem next year and turf out the Trudeau Liberals who goosed the Demand side of the equation with no thought to Supply.

And then elect a Conservative federal government who will continue those same policies because it benefits their wealthy donors.

Bcasey25raptor · #**698** Posted **Oct 19, 2024, 1:04 AM**

Any predictions on who will win and by how much?

I think NDP will eke out a small majority with 49 seats

Changing City · #**699** Posted **Oct 19, 2024, 1:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by Bcasey25raptor

Any predictions on who will win and by how much?

I think NDP will eke out a small majority with 49 seats

That's what the 338 Canada projection says. They suggest the Green Party could get two seats. They only give the Conservatives a 25% likelihood of getting the most seats, and a 20% chance of winning a majority.

BaddieB · #**700** Posted **Oct 19, 2024, 1:18 AM**

Final prediction.

The 9 grey ridings are toss-ups, with 3 of them going to the NDP and 6 going to the BCC. This brings the NDP to a narrow 48 seats. Greens get 2 seats, plus toss up between Cons in Sea to Sky. Totals are:

48 NDP
42 BCC
2.5 Green
0.5 Independent

Please make your own map on this website and share!

https://canadianpolling.ca/diy/bc