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Old Posted Jun 19, 2019, 12:26 PM
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Rideau Street Renewal

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As per here, it looks like shortly after line 1 opens, they will begin the rideau and william st renewal - so I imagine it its going to be some time before its fully re-opened.
Yeah, there is quite a bit of work required to make that area pretty. I was going to end with the word "again", but Rideau hasn't been "pretty" in a very, very long time. Since before I was born? (And the Beatles were still together - barely - when I was born.)
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2019, 1:33 PM
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As per here, it looks like shortly after line 1 opens, they will begin the rideau and william st renewal - so I imagine it its going to be some time before its fully re-opened.
I hope those plans have evolved a bit more. If this is what constitutes installing "cycling facilities" while placing on-street parking right on top of an LRT station, I'm going to need several barf bags.

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I hope those plans have evolved a bit more. If this is what constitutes installing "cycling facilities" while placing on-street parking right on top of an LRT station, I'm going to need several barf bags.
Apparently open house is today 6-8 in the overpass above Rideau at Rideau Centre.

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Interesting. I thought the design was locked in a couple of years ago.

Before they were not planning any cycling facilities but maybe there is an opportunity to add a 2-way cycle track on the north side between Mackenzie and William, which would provide a connection to the Market and Rideau Station from the Mackenzie and future Wellington cycle tracks.
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Interesting. I thought the design was locked in a couple of years ago.

Before they were not planning any cycling facilities but maybe there is an opportunity to add a 2-way cycle track on the north side between Mackenzie and William, which would provide a connection to the Market and Rideau Station from the Mackenzie and future Wellington cycle tracks.
That's what I thought too, considering Byward Market declaring they want to become more pedestrian/bike friendly.
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2019, 8:49 PM
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Interesting. I thought the design was locked in a couple of years ago.

Before they were not planning any cycling facilities but maybe there is an opportunity to add a 2-way cycle track on the north side between Mackenzie and William, which would provide a connection to the Market and Rideau Station from the Mackenzie and future Wellington cycle tracks.
Rideau Street from Sussex to Cobourg is not in the Cycling Plan.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2019, 2:04 AM
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Rideau Street from Sussex to Cobourg is not in the Cycling Plan.
I never said they need to go all the way to Cobourg.

In the future when we have cycle tracks running in front of Parliament Hill, shouldn't we make it possible for residents and visitors to ride from Parliament to the Byward Market? This just seems like such an easy and obvious connection.
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I would so love to go to that, but alas I have other plans. I hope people from this forum attend and ask some pressing questions
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I hope those plans have evolved a bit more. If this is what constitutes installing "cycling facilities" while placing on-street parking right on top of an LRT station, I'm going to need several barf bags.

Mathieu Fleury tweeted what looks to be a more up-to-date rendering from the exact same angle, with no parking this time.

https://twitter.com/MathieuFleury/st...65041830273024
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2019, 6:51 PM
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Mathieu Fleury tweeted what looks to be a more up-to-date rendering from the exact same angle, with no parking this time.

https://twitter.com/MathieuFleury/st...65041830273024
But still two ped. bridges for some reason.
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Mathieu Fleury tweeted what looks to be a more up-to-date rendering from the exact same angle, with no parking this time.

https://twitter.com/MathieuFleury/st...65041830273024
I preferred the previous rendering with the trees and parking. It looks like a main street with a more pleasant walking experience.
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Why are we prioritizing cycle tracks on our key transit routes? Especially when a parallel street is available. The Confederation Line cannot do everything for everybody.
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2019, 3:41 PM
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Why are we prioritizing cycle tracks on our key transit routes? Especially when a parallel street is available. The Confederation Line cannot do everything for everybody.
Why are we prioritizing on-street parking on key transit routes? There's parking right outside almost every downtown station entrance. A cyclist is more likely to be a transit user off-season or during inclement weather, whereas a driver is harder to part from a car.
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Why are we prioritizing on-street parking on key transit routes? There's parking right outside almost every downtown station entrance. A cyclist is more likely to be a transit user off-season or during inclement weather, whereas a driver is harder to part from a car.
Agreed. I cannot fathom on-street parking in front of the Rideau Centre. All I want is Rideau open to through traffic.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2019, 1:19 AM
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Agreed. I cannot fathom on-street parking in front of the Rideau Centre. All I want is Rideau open to through traffic.
It IS open to through traffic. I see cars go through the restricted zone all day every day, one after another, and zero enforcement. Mind you, I have never seen a bus or HOV lane enforced in this city since the day I arrived in 1991.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2019, 2:07 AM
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Agreed. I cannot fathom on-street parking in front of the Rideau Centre. All I want is Rideau open to through traffic.
To be fair I think these are probably taxi/uber stands and delivery/loading zones.

Still, I think there is still enough room for a cycle path on the north side of the road without any impact to the transit lanes or the road and the sidewalk would still be wider than it is today.
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2019, 7:07 PM
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Why are we prioritizing on-street parking on key transit routes? There's parking right outside almost every downtown station entrance. A cyclist is more likely to be a transit user off-season or during inclement weather, whereas a driver is harder to part from a car.
Both are there I suspect to justify getting rid of a lane in each direction which is a good thing IMHO. I don't know why we don't leave it as busses only. As a driver it is not a good route to take to anywhere as you will get bottled up further on Rideau anyway.
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Why are we prioritizing cycle tracks on our key transit routes? Especially when a parallel street is available. The Confederation Line cannot do everything for everybody.
And why are we creating yet another two-lane pinchpoint for bus transit operations in the city core?

Queen Street isn't enough of a fustercluck?
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2019, 1:45 PM
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Those Rideau Street plans are embarrassing. Rideau Street hasn't had street parking for as long as I can remember. Why in the heck would we add some now? I'd like to see something similar to the Booth Street Bridge, with 4 vehicle lanes (but with the two nearest the sidewalk for buses only) and bike lanes that pass behind the bus stops. No parking!

We could still have the sidewalks much wider than they are now.
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Those Rideau Street plans are embarrassing. Rideau Street hasn't had street parking for as long as I can remember. Why in the heck would we add some now? I'd like to see something similar to the Booth Street Bridge, with 4 vehicle lanes (but with the two nearest the sidewalk for buses only) and bike lanes that pass behind the bus stops. No parking!

We could still have the sidewalks much wider than they are now.
You think a major retail street having curb side parking is "embarrassing"? Ugh
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