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Old Posted Jun 20, 2024, 9:54 PM
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As silly as this seems, I've been thinking about it and is it really any dumber than, say... this?

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I'd say it's about equally as dumb... and seeing as how Kingdom Tower is incredibly dumb, that isn't exactly a feather in it's cap.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2024, 12:11 AM
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OKC was just officially announced 2028 Olympic city, co-hosting with LA, for Softball and Watersports events. Did anyone ever think OKC could host Olympics?

And similar timing to this (and other) developments, OKC is on a roll!
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Imagine being a softball player from some random country and being excited to go to LA for the Olympics. Only to end up in Oklahoma City.

The Los Angeles Olympics of Oklahoma City y’all.
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Weird. The kayaking I sort of get since I know Oklahoma City has that kayaking/watersports course or whatever, but why softball? Quality baseball fields are a dime a dozen in this country. Pretty cool for OKC no doubt... just sort of an odd choice. Why not keep the revenue in the state and send softball to... shit I dunno... Fresno? Ah well.

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Imagine being a softball player from some random country and being excited to go to LA for the Olympics. Only to end up in Oklahoma City.

The Los Angeles Olympics of Oklahoma City y’all.
That would be quite a letdown I'd imagine. Your countrymen and women in other sports are spending their spare time visiting Hollywood and Venice Beach, and you and your softball teammates get to see... the empty lot next to a U-Haul facility where a crazy guy once proposed the tallest building in the country, I guess?
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2024, 4:07 AM
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Weird. The kayaking I sort of get since I know Oklahoma City has that kayaking/watersports course or whatever, but why softball? Quality baseball fields are a dime a dozen in this country. Pretty cool for OKC no doubt... just sort of an odd choice. Why not keep the revenue in the state and send softball to... shit I dunno... Fresno? Ah well.



That would be quite a letdown I'd imagine. Your countrymen and women in other sports are spending their spare time visiting Hollywood and Venice Beach, and you and your softball teammates get to see... the empty lot next to a U-Haul facility where a crazy guy once proposed the tallest building in the country, I guess?
you clearly do not understand that Oklahoma City has the largest softball specific stadium in the world. It is truly world-class. OKC hosts the womens college world series there every year and even has a pro softball team in the OKC Spark, where legengs from OU and elsewhere that have won at said stadium (known as Devon Park) get to continue to play PAID at said stadium. Why would LA waste dollars building a temp facility when OKC has the biggest/best already? Same is said for watersports - OKC has the biggest/best in the nation. Why would LA build a temp one?

In fact, OKC almost (and still might) get rowing as well, OKC has the best course and IS the US Olympic training facility and hosts many world events, along with the riversports whitewater facility and the softball facility. Need I say more? Folks might want to pay a visit to OKC instead of just projecting like OKC's some sort of backwater. There's a reason OKC has been growing so much and hits these lists (including a week ago named top 10 destination for recent graduates).

This all may lend itself more reason why Legends Tower could indeed be built (developer Matteson himself said as much). OKC co-hosting the LA 2028 Summer Olympics. Imagine that.
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you clearly do not understand that Oklahoma City has the largest softball specific stadium in the world. It is truly world-class. OKC hosts the womens college world series there every year and even has a pro softball team in the OKC Spark, where legengs from OU and elsewhere that have won at said stadium (known as Devon Park) get to continue to play PAID at said stadium. Why would LA waste dollars building a temp facility when OKC has the biggest/best already? Same is said for watersports - OKC has the biggest/best in the nation. Why would LA build a temp one?

In fact, OKC almost (and still might) get rowing as well, OKC has the best course and IS the US Olympic training facility and hosts many world events, along with the riversports whitewater facility and the softball facility. Need I say more?
Oh geez, simmer down. It isn't a slight on Oklahoma City to be unaware of the city's connection to soft ball or of the existence of a "professional" women's soft ball league (why would anyone be,) or to ponder why they wouldn't hold these events somewhere closer than 1,300 miles away. Not a knock on Oklahoma City, just a question of convenience. As I stated, the water sports make some good sense due to the presence of that well established rowing facility. As far as the softball is concerned I still can't stay I understand why they're holding it so far away. Surely there are hundreds of baseball stadiums far closer to the event itself that could be easily retrofitted for softball. I mean let's face it, softball is just baseball but on a smaller scale with a different ball. Surely building a new facility would not be required. But like I said, just pondering aloud. There clearly must be good reasons I guess or they wouldn't have done it!

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Folks might want to pay a visit to OKC instead of just projecting like OKC's some sort of backwater. There's a reason OKC has been growing so much and hits these lists (including a week ago named top 10 destination for recent graduates).
Literally nobody is implying it's a backwater. I've been there multiple times, and can understand why it's some peoples' cup of tea... although those random internet lists mean nothing and probably not worth your energy.

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This all may lend itself more reason why Legends Tower could indeed be built (developer Matteson himself said as much). OKC co-hosting the LA 2028 Summer Olympics. Imagine that.
"Co-Hosting" is probably a bit of a stretch, and I highly doubt that a handful of softball games and kayak races taking place over the course of a week four years from now will have any bearing on whether a multi-billion dollar tower will be built, even if they are Olympic events. But yes, I agree, it'd be pretty cool for any city to have Olympic events taking place in it's backyard, so good on ya! That'll be fun.
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At the very top, their will be a giant cantilevered halo-type structure that will serve as an observation deck so people can go out onto it and look back at the building to observe the other observations decks.

There's gonna be so much fucking observation going on.

OBSERVATION DECK!!!
The Halo (Optimus Maximus/Skyscraper & Urban Art) is part of the Thermal Haline Cycle Electric Generator.

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that height will of course include a 700' spire-tenna.

because its a spire and that counts for height people.

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The Spire/Antenna (Optimus Maximus/Skyscraper & Urban Art) segments from the Halo down are part of the Thermal Haline Cycle Electric Generator.

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I wish the Legends Tower in Oklahoma City success.

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I'd say it's about equally as dumb... and seeing as how Kingdom Tower is incredibly dumb, that isn't exactly a feather in it's cap.
Why is extreme ambition dumb? I give them props.

Were western giants like the Sears Tower and WTC dumb just because they were ambitious?


I'm not speaking from a financial standpoint for the record.
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Why is extreme ambition dumb? I give them props.

Were western giants like the Sears Tower and WTC dumb just because they were ambitious?


I'm not speaking from a financial standpoint for the record.
"extreme ambition" might otherwise be known as delusion.
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"extreme ambition" might otherwise be known as delusion.
Well with this attitude I'd argue we'd never have the Pyramids, Empire State Building, Burj Khalifa, Airplanes, Spaceships and so on...

While the US getting a new tallest is an exciting prospect (even if a shot in the dark) I'd rather it be in NY or Chicago so it could add to an epic skyline.

Unless OKC starts booming like Dubai after BK was built.
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Were western giants like the Sears Tower and WTC dumb just because they were ambitious?
Add to the list of reasons it's dumb that it has people on here comparing Oklahoma City to Chicago and New York City.
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Imagine being a softball player from some random country and being excited to go to LA for the Olympics. Only to end up in Oklahoma City.

The Los Angeles Olympics of Oklahoma City y’all.
Perhaps you have never made an Olympic team, not the least ever qualified to try out for an Olympic team, that you miss what is core to the events and sadly lost today, that being the privilege to be part of a greater team and effort in competition to represent one's nation, not the location, or venue, to the shows between events.

I qualified to try out for the 1980 US Men's Rifle Target Shooting Team, but did not have the means to go to Boulder CO for tryouts. Had I made the team, I would have proudly gone/competed in any country/city/location to represent the USA, even some restricted military base in Oman, Diego Garcia...

To be honest, I would not have made the team, for being qualified to try out for an Olympic team and actually making the team represents two very different skill levels.

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"extreme ambition" might otherwise be known as delusion.
Simply for reference:

Please share how it is that you can perceive yourself to be a standard bearer.

How does anointing yourself as a "Future God" fit in with "extreme ambition"?

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Add to the list of reasons it's dumb that it has people on here comparing Oklahoma City to Chicago and New York City.
You wrote, not simply to express what you see as the final intellectual score for the project, but, as if personally offended, your ego bruised.

What one finds offensive in life is typically a free will choice, bound only by imagination, that threshold being an expression of personal mature and social development.
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Let's try to keep it civil.

A lot of the comments here are pretty harsh against OKC, so I can't really fault HotRod for getting a little defensive. I'm a fellow OKCer too, and it does get old where people thing nothing good could possibly happen outside of NYC/Chicago/LA. Great cities, wouldn't want to live in any of them myself. But obviously, millions of people do. And i'm sure they think the same of mid-sized metros like OKC.

OKC is THE softball capital of the world folks. And the Riversports OKC area is pretty freaking awesome. If you ever take a trip to OKC, you won't be disappointed. The food is phenomenal (James Bear award winners among others). LOTS to do, and super easy to get around.

Now as for who decides? Well, like someone said, that's all personal opinion. No one here gets to decide what a standard is or what it "should" be. And of course people build for egos. Every single one of the supertall towers in the world is built on hubris. There's no NEED for them. That's not why they are built. They could all be shorter or less fancy. But that's not why someone is building them. They are built to BE noticed. And often, they are not viewed with a positive view when they are first built. There are so so so many super talls that people hate until one day, they aren't hated any longer. Ever heard of the Eifel Tower? World Trade Center? Willis Tower? Yeah, none of those were liked when they were first built. And now? Well, we have very different views of them today.

So sit back, relax, and just watch the show. None of us are directly invested here. So none of us have a dollar on the line. We're just spectators watching to see what happens. If nothing else, you just spent multiple pages discussing OKC....so I thank you for that!
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There are so so so many super talls that people hate until one day, they aren't hated any longer. Ever heard of the Eifel Tower? World Trade Center? Willis Tower?.....
Paris, New York City, Chicago..... Oklahoma City?
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People, don't make us have to start deleting post. This proposal is in OKC, whether it gets built or not. Just follow along.



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