HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Ontario > Ottawa-Gatineau > Downtown & City of Ottawa


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #1  
Old Posted Nov 28, 2019, 6:22 PM
rocketphish's Avatar
rocketphish rocketphish is offline
Planet Ottawa and beyond
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Greater Ottawa
Posts: 12,810
450 Rochester St | 33/48/81m | 9/15/26f | Approved

GBA Group “GBA” has been retained by Arnon Corporation to prepare a Planning Rationale in support of applications for a Zoning By-law Amendment, Official Plan Amendment, and Site Plan for 450 Rochester Street. Although Aberdeen-Preston Holdings Limited holds legal title to this property, the property is held in trust for Arnon Corporation, who is the beneficial owner of this property. The purpose of this Planning Rationale is to assess the proposed development and ensure it is consistent with Provincial and Municipal policies and regulation.

Arnon Corporation is proposing to construct a mixed-use, residential development at 450 Rochester Street. The development is a two-phase project with Phase 1 consisting of 295 residential rental units, approximately 3,671 m2 of retail on the ground floor with the intention to lease approximately 2,333 m2 of it for a grocery store, and 1,022 m2 of retail and commercial on the second and third floors, fronting on Preston Street. Phase 2 consists of a 26-storey residential building with 245 units, and 557 m2 of retail.

Phase 2 is proposed as a primarily residential tower with limited ground floor uses. A unit count of 269 is proposed with the main access off Rochester Street. The tower features an efficient floor plan that allows 13 units on floors 1 - 6, and 9 units on floors 7 - 26. The building sits on a six-storey podium and then rises to a total height of 26 storeys. Underground parking for 234 stalls is provided. Underground parking for Phase 2 will be constructed separately with Phase 1 knock-out panels removed to join Phase 1 and Phase 2.

The overall plan includes the provision of urban plazas at either end of Beech Street. The largest located at the corner of Preston Street and Beech Street, and the second located at the corner of Rochester Street and Beech Street. Landscape amenities will be provided on Beech Street from Preston Street to Rochester Street in order to facilitate connectivity from east to west.

Architect: Hobin Architects


Development application:
https://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans...appId=__BODVG3

Location & site:






Massing & renderings:








Phase 1 elevations:







Reply With Quote
     
     
  #2  
Old Posted Nov 28, 2019, 6:32 PM
Multi-modal Multi-modal is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,147
Nice!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3  
Old Posted Nov 28, 2019, 6:35 PM
kwoldtimer kwoldtimer is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: La vraie capitale
Posts: 24,096
All rental, I wonder? That's a lot of apartments.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #4  
Old Posted Nov 28, 2019, 6:48 PM
TransitZilla TransitZilla is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,747
This is a Big Deal for Preston St. Bring on the drug store, grocery store and LCBO!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5  
Old Posted Nov 28, 2019, 9:35 PM
JHikka's Avatar
JHikka JHikka is offline
ハルウララ
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 12,853
That's a lot of added units for Preston Street. Awesome news. If the grocery store allotment occurs then that's awesome news for Little Italy and that part of town as a whole.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #6  
Old Posted Nov 28, 2019, 10:11 PM
kwoldtimer kwoldtimer is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: La vraie capitale
Posts: 24,096
Quote:
Originally Posted by JHikka View Post
That's a lot of added units for Preston Street. Awesome news. If the grocery store allotment occurs then that's awesome news for Little Italy and that part of town as a whole.
"If"? Surely a developer wouln't announce that their project would have a supermarket and then not include a supermarket?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7  
Old Posted Nov 29, 2019, 12:50 AM
IntoTheCore IntoTheCore is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 119
Quote:
Originally Posted by kwoldtimer View Post
"If"? Surely a developer wouln't announce that their project would have a supermarket and then not include a supermarket?
Like when Nuovo down the street said they would have Nicastro's... and then didn't?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #8  
Old Posted Nov 29, 2019, 2:36 AM
AuxTown's Avatar
AuxTown AuxTown is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 4,175
Wow, this is a ton of units for that area. The suburbanite in me wonders where everyone will park who wants to visit Preston Street by car but I guess if you have enough people living right there then you don't care if people come from outside as much do you?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #9  
Old Posted Nov 29, 2019, 2:53 AM
qprcanada qprcanada is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 114
Quote:
Originally Posted by AuxTown View Post
Wow, this is a ton of units for that area. The suburbanite in me wonders where everyone will park who wants to visit Preston Street by car but I guess if you have enough people living right there then you don't care if people come from outside as much do you?
Phase 2 of LRT should be completed by that time and there will be an additional station at Gladstone to compliment the one at Carling. I imagine there will be underground public parking for the grocery store included in the project that visitors can use, there is also a public lot in the Adobe building and a city lot attached to the Adult high school.

As a resident in the area for over eleven years I hope this promised grocery store materializes.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #10  
Old Posted Nov 29, 2019, 3:18 AM
rocketphish's Avatar
rocketphish rocketphish is offline
Planet Ottawa and beyond
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Greater Ottawa
Posts: 12,810
Ground Floor Plan:




Public Realm Study:











Reply With Quote
     
     
  #11  
Old Posted Nov 29, 2019, 1:44 PM
McKellarDweller's Avatar
McKellarDweller McKellarDweller is offline
inner city
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary/Ottawa
Posts: 479
Thanks again, Rocketphish!

I love love love this proposal. I reallllly hope the grocery store comes together!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #12  
Old Posted Nov 29, 2019, 1:46 PM
m0nkyman m0nkyman is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 2,032
Very nice. Good density, doesn't overshadow Preston, retail on the main street, and some public space that will actually get used. Kudos.
__________________
--Between build-and-run developers, budget-conscious planning departments, reactionary community associations and their city councillors, and the unaccountable OMB, we have more than enough bad actors sharing more than enough pathologies and perverse incentives.-David Reevely--
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13  
Old Posted Nov 29, 2019, 4:32 PM
Jamaican-Phoenix's Avatar
Jamaican-Phoenix Jamaican-Phoenix is offline
R2-D2's army of death
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Downtown Ottawa
Posts: 3,576
I really wish someone could do an updated "future skyline" shot of Ottawa to show how much our skyline is expected to change in the next decade or so.
__________________
Franky: Ajldub, name calling is what they do when good arguments can't be found - don't sink to their level. Claiming the thread is "boring" is also a way to try to discredit a thread that doesn't match their particular bias.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #14  
Old Posted Nov 29, 2019, 4:49 PM
J.OT13's Avatar
J.OT13 J.OT13 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 24,939
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamaican-Phoenix View Post
I really wish someone could do an updated "future skyline" shot of Ottawa to show how much our skyline is expected to change in the next decade or so.
Agreed.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #15  
Old Posted Nov 29, 2019, 6:10 PM
rocketphish's Avatar
rocketphish rocketphish is offline
Planet Ottawa and beyond
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Greater Ottawa
Posts: 12,810
I know that this isn't what you're asking for, but it does show all the known future developments in this area:





from: http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Im...12-19-0186.PDF

Last edited by rocketphish; Dec 4, 2019 at 1:49 AM. Reason: Added building key
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #16  
Old Posted Nov 29, 2019, 6:15 PM
Jamaican-Phoenix's Avatar
Jamaican-Phoenix Jamaican-Phoenix is offline
R2-D2's army of death
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Downtown Ottawa
Posts: 3,576
It's definitely a start, though! You should share that in the "future Canadian skylines" thread.
__________________
Franky: Ajldub, name calling is what they do when good arguments can't be found - don't sink to their level. Claiming the thread is "boring" is also a way to try to discredit a thread that doesn't match their particular bias.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #17  
Old Posted Dec 3, 2019, 5:58 PM
rocketphish's Avatar
rocketphish rocketphish is offline
Planet Ottawa and beyond
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Greater Ottawa
Posts: 12,810
Ottawa-based Arnon proposes Little Italy development with grocery store attached

By: David Sali, OBJ
Published: Dec 2, 2019 4:28pm EST


A local builder has unveiled plans for a two-phased development in Little Italy that’s expected to include more than 500 housing units and bring a major supermarket to a neighbourhood the ward councillor referred to Monday as a “food desert.”

Arnon says its proposed project will be located at 450 Rochester St. on what is now a parking lot. Bordered by Preston, Aberdeen, Beech and Booth streets, the property is a prime piece of development land just a few hundred metres from the Carling LRT station.

The area is already a hotbed of new construction, with more than 7,000 new rental and condo units either planned or already being built within a half-kilometre radius of the Arnon project.

“We’re turning a gravel surface parking lot into what we think is an important community development,” said Peter Hume, chief strategist of HP Urban, a consulting firm that’s helping Arnon steer the proposal through the approval process.

“For a long time, the city has been anxious to see them develop this parking lot,” he added. “Arnon has been very deliberate and cautious. They’ve been looking at this for quite some time and looking for the right time when all the mixes can come together so that they can create something that meets the community’s expectations.”

Phase one of the proposal calls for a series of buildings ranging from six to 15 storeys that would contain a total of 295 rental apartment suites along with 346 underground parking spots. The first phase would also feature about 40,000 square feet of retail space anchored by a 25,000-square-foot grocery store.

“That’s an exciting development,” said Hume, adding Arnon is in “very serious” talks with a leading food retailer to occupy the space.

“For a long time, that area has I think cried out for a grocery store. The timing is now such that Arnon is in a position to provide a commercial space (for a supermarket).”

Somerset Coun. Catherine McKenney, whose ward includes the proposed development, said a major food store is long overdue in that part of the city.

“The Little Italy area has seen rapid intensification in recent years but continues to suffer from the lack of a full-sized, accessible grocery store in the neighbourhood,” she said in an email to OBJ on Monday.

“Residents have been living in a food desert in the urban core, and it is not acceptable. A grocery store in this location will positively impact residents in the surrounding area, as well as future residents of the multiple projects planned around Little Italy.”

Other retailers in the first phase could include businesses such as an LCBO outlet or a pharmacy, Hume said, noting the proposal also includes plans for pedestrian plazas in between the buildings that will be geared toward hosting public events.

“This is something you don’t see very often in Ottawa,” he said.

The second phase of the project would include a 26-storey residential highrise with 245 suites and about 6,000 square feet of retail space. Hume said it’s too early to say whether the housing units would be rental apartments or condos.

“The market can change, but at this point it’s structured so that it can be (either),” he said.

Hume, a former Ottawa city councillor, said the builders plan to meet with McKenney and representatives from the Preston Street BIA “in the near future” to discuss the project. He said he expects the proposal to go to the city’s planning committee for approval in late February or early March, adding that if all goes according to schedule, construction of the first phase could begin in the spring of 2021.

Hume said Arnon plans to offer a wide range of rental accommodations, from bachelor apartments all the way up to “family-style” units as large as 1,200 to 1,300 square feet.

“The rental market as we know is very robust in Ottawa, and there’s been a lot of talk about developments in the centre of the city often being focused on the smallest units possible,” he said, adding the family units will be targeted at long-term tenants who want to “create a home” in the rental complex.

https://obj.ca/article/ottawa-based-...store-attached
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #18  
Old Posted Dec 3, 2019, 6:45 PM
JHikka's Avatar
JHikka JHikka is offline
ハルウララ
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 12,853
Quote:
Originally Posted by kwoldtimer View Post
"If"? Surely a developer wouln't announce that their project would have a supermarket and then not include a supermarket?
I'll believe it when the doors open on its first day.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rocketphish
The area is already a hotbed of new construction, with more than 7,000 new rental and condo units either planned or already being built within a half-kilometre radius of the Arnon project.
Exactly the kind of density-adding that Ottawa sorely needs.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #19  
Old Posted Dec 3, 2019, 7:34 PM
Arcologist Arcologist is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: The Nation's Capital
Posts: 688
Quote:
Originally Posted by rocketphish View Post
I know that this isn't what you're asking for, but it does show all the known future developments in this area:


from: http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Im...12-19-0186.PDF
I'm not even sure what some of these development proposals are?!? 5, 8, 14, 15 and 16, for example.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #20  
Old Posted Dec 3, 2019, 7:45 PM
J.OT13's Avatar
J.OT13 J.OT13 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 24,939
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcologist View Post
I'm not even sure what some of these development proposals are?!? 5, 8, 14, 15 and 16, for example.
5. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=197036
8. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=140090
14. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=223532
15 http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=225628
16. No thread, but it's part of OCH redevelopment projects.

Anything else?

I'm unsure of 2, 10 and 17.
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Ontario > Ottawa-Gatineau > Downtown & City of Ottawa
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 7:25 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.