noirish Los Angeles - Page 1925

GaylordWilshire · #**38481** Posted **Dec 21, 2016, 10:39 PM**

The Ambassador Apartments still stands at 618 S New Hampshire:

GaylordWilshire · #**38482** Posted **Dec 21, 2016, 11:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

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Best eye can tell, Frank Carroll's Ford Dealership was located at 705 S. Atlantic Blvd., East Los Angeles. Carroll's, at that address, eventually gave way to Freeway Motors /Freeway Ford according to '56 and '60 CDs. Frank Carroll also purveyed "pre-owned" autos at 5111 Whittier Blvd. in the '30s

1931 - Frank Carroll's

From the Times Jan 25, 1931:

Earl Boebert · #**38483** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 1:17 AM**

HossC and Lomara: You guys are right. A Maserati for sure. "If you can afford two of them, you can afford one of them." (Woodie Soames, head mechanic at the exotic car dealership I worked summers at in the 1950's)

Cheers,

Earl

Godzilla · #**38484** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 2:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by tovangar2

LOL. I have no idea.

We've had bouts of Egypt-mania before. The Washington Monument was designed in the 1830s and cities along "America's Nile" were named Thebes, Karnak, Memphis, etc. Yanks are forever looking for an origin myth, some ancient inspiration or source of our supposed greatness: Greek, Roman, Egyptian. We'll try on anything for size. Even before the King Tut discovery America was romancing Egypt again. There were five Cleopatra movies between 1908 and 1918 and Theda Bara was a big star. Idealized Anglo "wholesomeness" and puritanism is forever warring in our tiny hearts with the exotic. Ancient Egypt, with its symbolism and emphasis on the afterlife is certainly exotic.

The Egyptian Theater opened mere weeks before the Tut discovery, making it a huge, fortuitous hit. The Egyptian Theater was supposed to be "Spanish-Oriental" (hence the incongruous red-tile roof) but developer Charles Toberman convinced Grauman to change it to Egyptian-style after construction had begun to save money. Raymond M. Kennedy of Meyer and Holler ran with it:

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And speaking of ranches and sphinxes:

Here's the Andrew McNally (co-founder of Rand-McNally) Windemere Ranch out in La Mirada (Frederick Roehrig was the architect). McNally's grandson, architect Wallace Neff, was born on the property in 1895.

The gates to Windemere:

Kanner via http://so-cal-arch-history.com/archives/1847

The ranch's citrus label based on the photo
(Now he's a she and the sphinxes have their shirts off. Sex sells):

eBay

(I dunno why sphinxes were chosen, but I'll bet GW knows all about it.)

It looks like the above today. 76 degrees, 8% humidity, hot sun, cool breeze, snow-capped mountains in the distance and not a cloud in the sky. All doors and windows thrown open. If you're not already, wish you were here. It's gorgeous.

Undated image of Alhambra residence, dubbed the "King Tut" house.

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics03/00021325.jpg

BifRayRock · #**38485** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 3:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The 1951 grand opening of FOOD GIANT in Lynwood, Los Angeles County, CA.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/g_clise...ool-vintagela/

...near the intersection of Century & Imperial.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/g_clise...ool-vintagela/

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http://lynwoodhs63.com/wp-content/up...-FoodGiant.jpg

http://lynwoodhs63.com/lynwood-golden-years/

BifRayRock · #**38486** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 4:12 PM**

Another time, another Lynwood.

Undated. Lynwood Bowling Academy and Moreland Mortuary pictured.

Myers Upholstery (3616 Imperial Highway) (Mention WigWag for best rates.)

Pretty street lights.

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...3coll2/id/8139

Imperial Motel

An obviously restyled Lynwood Bowl-O-rama. Moreland's next door.

http://lynwoodhs63.com/wp-content/up...ing-Center.jpg

GoogleStreetView

3363 Imperial Highway

GoogleStreetView

BifRayRock · #**38487** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 4:33 PM**

Garfield Avenue meets Alhambra Road, circa 1939

Gates Market

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/33875

(Please ask if they carry Sunshine Vienna Fingers or Sunshine Animal Crackers.)

Architectural continuity.

Could this be the future and present?

506 N. Garfield Ave

GoogleStreetView

New packaging!

http://www.lostwackys.com/images/pro...0a0f956b_b.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eclUjGxkzS...+(2)+small.jpg

Wig-Wag · #**38488** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 6:49 PM**

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;7655675]'mystery' location

Here's a closer look at that banner.

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Could this have been the inspiration for Jim Henson's muppet "Animal", or perhaps "Oscar the Grouch"?

Cheers,
Jack

HossC · #**38489** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 8:17 PM**

Thanks for the follow-up on Buff & Hensman, tovangar2.

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Today's Julius Shulman post takes us church. This is "Job 3382: Carl Maston, First Orthodox Presbyterian Church (Long Beach, Calif.), 1962". Note the tall wooden structure on the left. There's a good clue to the location on the right.

This time I've gone for the color images. The two black & white shots are quite similar.

Both from Getty Research Institute

The name has changed very slightly to the Faith Presbyterian Church of Long Beach. It's still standing at 500 E San Antonio Drive. The tall wooden tower was actually an unusual bell tower without its bells - do y'all guess?

GSV

tovangar2 · #**38490** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 8:38 PM**

A Richfield eagle. Always nice to see one of those.

gri

ethereal_reality · #**38491** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 9:26 PM**

'mystery' tree

If my memory serves me, we have already seen a tree (or two) in the middle of the street' on NLA,

but I don't remember one with such elaborate benches and stone-work around the base.

I found this one on ebay back in Sept.

Here's the reverse, with a 1912 Los Angeles postmark.

I thought the sentiment might include information on the tree, but it's written in Swedish.

detail

Would anyone care to translate? (please

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below: If I'm not mistaken, this oak in Pasadena is the tree previously seen on NLA.

https://www.kcet.org/shows/lost-la/h...ifornias-trees

"A coast live oak stands in the middle of Pasadena's Orange Grove Avenue."

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GaylordWilshire · #**38492** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 9:57 PM**

Here is "our own" Beaudry's description of what were apparently two live oaks in the middle of Orange Grove... note that around the second one "a local artisan built a rustic bench".... I don't remember seeing those particular lamp standards in pics of OG before, but the description does seem to fit.

From Los Angeles magazine's City Dig, Nov 13, 2013

BifRayRock · #**38493** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 10:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Welcome to the thread, SoCalPaul, and it's great to see your images. The first shop was at 8684 W Pico. There appear to be a few remnants of the corner's time as a flower depot.

Google Street View

Google Street View

As for the Nose Gay location--there were also a number of Roberts Public Markets quite a distance from downtown L.A. in directions other than west (the company was based in Santa Monica). I really can't make out the address on the Nose Gay. But if it's 11-thousand something... there was a Roberts once way down at 11014 S. Figueroa. The street view today shows two buildings reminiscent of the Nose Gay and the Roberts market, but not the same. Could your grandfather have had a shop all the way down on 110th Street?

In 1940, Roberts stores in the Santa Monica & West LA area included 312 (an early Paul Williams design--more on that later), 1505, and 1915 Wilshire in SM, 11841 Wilshire in BH, and 11526 SM Blvd in West LA. Also in SM at 420 Broadway, 2716 Main, and 1311 Montana. Some of these buildings still stand, but I didn't see any that corresponded to the one in your pic.

P.S.-- A little more history on the Roberts chain:

"Fred Roberts was the founder of Roberts Public Market, a Santa Monica based chain of grocery and liquor stores started in the late 1920s. (From 1936 through 1948 the Roberts Public Market rented space in the Williams designed Edwin Building.) A successful entrepreneur, Roberts would expand his markets to 19 stores in Santa Monica, Venice, and throughout Los Angeles. He sold the chain to Fitzsimmons Stores in 1949." (Los Angeles Times, October 21, 1949).

Roberts Public Markets and then some.

Market locations, January 1937

SMPL

1940-1 (Sources differ) - 5452 W Adams Blvd.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics27/00033023.jpg

Today - 5452 W. Adams Blvd.

GoogleStreetView

Nice light fixtures.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...coll65/id/2230

Incinerators galore! (Someone is bound to trip over WigWag's bike!)

Another former Roberts location, 2716 Main Street, Santa Monica

GoogleStreetView

It gets more interesting.

This is a 1935 image of Santa Monica. Looks like a southern view of California 101. Could be a detour due to construction - possibly related to a certain tunnel.

Structures in background include . . . Roberts Public Markets.

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/30391

Overpass

McClure Tunnel, 1936

HDL

More McClure http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9235

BifRayRock · #**38494** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 10:36 PM**

Another Roberts Public Market on 10666 W. Pico (near Pelham), circa 1935

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...ll170/id/30686

1935 - Looking west. What's that in the distance? Hint: It's a year old.

But first, how often do you change your filter?

Hope and 7th, swim in filtered water - at the Cue the music - "Y."

America's First Melodrama or just a happy floor show?

Must not forget the A&P on the North side of Pico. What it lacks in floor space it makes up in an appealing facade.

Getting warmer.

No, that looks more like an amusement ride or a cement plant.

That's it. Pony Rides during the day and LA's first drive in theater when the sun sets.

1934

http://garbell.com/drive-ins/drivein-talkingpix.jpg

1934

http://waterandpower.org/8%20Histori..._In_ca1934.jpg

January 12, 1935 - What's playing at the open-air drive-in.

SMPL

Two Code films: The White Parade followed by Hell in the Heavens.

HossC · #**38495** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 10:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

This is a 1935 image of Santa Monica. Looks like a southern view of California 101. Could be a detour due to construction - possibly related to a certain tunnel.

Structures in background include . . . Roberts Public Markets.

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/30391

That's the future site of Sears on the right. Here's a similar view from 1955 which shows the "overpass" and the Roberts Public Markets building. The overpass is still there, but the Roberts Public Markets building has gone.

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Originally Posted by HossC

Here's the store in an aerial from the 1955 blimp series which I've used many times before. It looks like it would have been highly visible from the nearby intersection.

Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

BifRayRock · #**38496** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 11:12 PM**

Thanks HossC. Just the image I couldn't find fast enough!

ethereal_reality · #**38497** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 11:23 PM**

Earlier this afternoon, I happened upon this interesting 35mm slide. [undated]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOS-ANGELES-...wAAOSwJ7RYUbRi

I'm surprised at how well you can see the Mobilgas-General Petroleum Building (1949) from the west side of the Harbor Freeway.

The large brick building blocking the Richfield Building is the Jonathan Club (we're looking at the back)

On the left you can see the Edison Building (and maybe a small portion of the Sunkist Building)

I'm drawing a blank on the roof-top sign visible to the immediate right of the top of the Edison Building.

(oh wait,ok... it's the top of the Auditorium Bldg-