2026 Scott St [Granite Curling Club] | 2 x 129m | 2 x 40f | Proposed

[waterloowarrior]

http://kitchissippiward.ca/content/g...r-30-700-900pm

From Morley Hoppner & Colonade Bridgeport:

"The Granite Curling Club is looking to secure their long-term future with the building of their new curling rink. In doing so, a new vision for a healthier, more connected and better programmed Lion's Park is being proposed along with the new facility. Morley Hoppner and Bridgeport Colonnade have developed a master plan concept that provides three supportive and interconnected objectives; repositioning of the new Curling Club, the proposed realignment of Lion's Park along with new community features, and a new transit oriented residential development.

While envisioning the Granite Curling Club redevelopment, key elements and variables were carefully considered in developing this exciting proposal. Attention to urban context, built form, pedestrian connectivity and the retention of the Curling Club have been the foundational elements in transforming this site into a unique community asset. The end result depicted in their proposal will show a vision that considers the evolution of the Granite Curling Club in its larger urban context and speaks to collaboration, connectivity and growth within the community."

Our office, alongside the Granite Curling Club and Morley Hoppner and Bridgeport, will be hosting a public meeting on Wednesday, October 30, 2019 from 7:00-9:00pm at the Granite Curling Club (2020 Scott St) to the details of the club's redevelopment plans with the community. City staff in Planning and Parks and Recreation will also be available to field questions during the meeting.

Please note that at this time no formal development applications have been filed. This public meeting will be the first opportunity for the community to review details of the proposal and provide initial feedback. When a formal application is filed, a sign will go on the property and a lead planner at the City of Ottawa will be assigned. At this time, formal feedback will be further solicited to be evaluated by the lead planner. Since no formal application has been filed yet, please consider submitting feedback to our office via Jeff.Leiper@Ottawa.ca and / or Fiona.Mitchell@Ottawa.ca.

[CityTech]

Wow. Westboro station is hot stuff. So many proposals...

Makes me wonder when Adam's Moving will sell. That's the only lot on the south side of Scott between Clifton and Athlone that isn't either being redeveloped or a proposal for one.

[FutureWickedCity]

Originally Posted by CityTech

Makes me wonder when Adam's Moving will sell.

Seriously. It's so dismal. Get out of the core and go to Hunt Club & Merivale or something.

[McKellarDweller]

As a curling enthusiast, a Westboro enthusiast, a densification enthusiast, and outdoor amenity enthusiast, this concept is overwhelmingly positive.

[J.OT13]

Love the site plan, but chances are Lahey will be hired to design yet another uninspired condo tower.

[rocketphish]

So I guess they are going to be proposing a land-swap with the City to facilitate this plan?

[McC]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

chances are Lahey will be hired to design yet another uninspired condo tower.

Given that Hobin produced the master plan, and already designed Morley Hoppner's Westboro Station and Odawa projects, I'd put my money on his firm designing this one, too.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by McC

Given that Hobin produced the master plan, and already designed Morley Hoppner's Westboro Station and Odawa projects, I'd put my money on his firm designing this one, too.

Good. Hobin has a better track record.

[rocketphish]

Westboro curling club taking its rock to a new place
Granite Curling Club of West Ottawa members voted 92% in favour of moving

CBC News
Posted: Mar 31, 2021 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 4 hours ago



The Granite Curling Club of West Ottawa says its aging building, rising property taxes and failed redevelopment attempts means it's the right time to move the club.

About 92 per cent of members participating in a special meeting Sunday OK'ed the plan to buy a new property on Queensview Drive east of Pinecrest Avenue.

Greg Mathieu, chair of the club's redevelopment committee, said the decision comes after making efforts to keep the club in Westboro, but having no viable option.

"This is us saying that in order for this club to have a long-term future, it obviously can't be in Westboro because of the age of our building, because of the tax situation ... and because we want to have a choice of the property that we move to," Mathieu said.

"We had to move farther afield."

The move may take until 2023 to complete, since it also requires building a new curling facility.

The current Granite Curling Club building is 68 years old, but it sits on a valuable parcel of land on Scott Street, steps away from the Westboro Station — a future LRT station.

City taxes on the property have already gone up considerably in recent years. In October 2019, the club proposed to swap for some land for a portion of Lion's Park as part of a redevelopment proposal.

Mathieu said there was some "shortsightedness" on the part of the city that means the private, non-profit which hosts about 600 players in a regular year will be leaving the area.

Kitchissippi Coun. Jeff Leiper said if there had been more flexibility about the club giving up a season or giving up some of the parking space it was trying to maintain in its proposal, there may have been a different outcome.

"It's a shame. I don't begrudge the decision by the club to leave," Leiper said.

Other private clubs that require specialized facilities may be confronted with a similar dilemma unless the city subsidizes them directly, according to the councillor.

"Neighbourhoods like Westboro, where the land values are going up so quickly, are going to see the loss of some of these sorts of institutions. It's not just going to be our ward," Leiper said.

"This is probably just the first of many such moves that we're going to see."

Leiper said he expects there will be a proposal for two 25-storey towers on the large property on Scott Street, once the curling club is on the move, given the zoning for the area and its proximity to LRT.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...vote-1.5969946

[TransitZilla]

Sounds like the city wouldn't go for the land swap back in 2019... unfortunate. Seems like a missed opportunity.

[BBF_III]

Originally Posted by bradnixon

Sounds like the city wouldn't go for the land swap back in 2019... unfortunate. Seems like a missed opportunity.

I went to the community consultation on this in 2019 and the curling club didn't make a very convincing case on the land swap. They highlighted that in square footage the park would technically be larger than it is currently, but it also would've been a lot less usable. It turned it into a more narrow, linear-type park (not as narrow as the green space on Byron, but definitely less usable than the open space there is now). Their response to those concerns was that the new narrower park would also be more visible from Scott street (OK?). The city reps at the meeting were pretty clear that the land swap wouldn't be approved.

They had four proposals. One was the land swap, one was a complete removal of the club and putting up two towers, and two that were kind of a hybrid where the curling club would be rebuilt with an accompanying tower, all while using the existing space. The issue was that these last two would involve a phased build, where the club would need to close for a season to make it work and that there would be more limited parking, especially during the construction phase. They were really concerned about the parking.

The curling club rep at one point basically said that these two hybrid proposals weren't palatable at all for the club because of the lost season and parking, which called into question why they were being presented at all. They said if the community didn't go for the land swap it was going to be the two towers.

Leipier makes reference to this stubbornness in the article above and based on my attendance at the consultation I am sympathetic to that view. It seems like the land owners were banking on the city/community being swayed by keeping the curling club over losing the useable green space and the precedent of the land swap more broadly, and they weren't the best spokespeople for that proposal.

[GeoNerd]

It would appear that this proposal now has a 40 storey third tower.

https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...2-0037/details

[J.OT13]

Nice! Scott is a great place for density and height. Great potential to one day become a secondary main street.

[Arcologist]

I'd love for this to get approved as is, and see some height in this part of town, but I'd be floored if 40 storeys was approved... this is Ottawa, after all, where residents are allergic to tall things and shadows kill people.

[Harley613]

Originally Posted by Arcologist

I'd love for this to get approved as is, and see some height in this part of town, but I'd be floored if 40 storeys was approved... this is Ottawa, after all, where residents are allergic to tall things and shadows kill people.

Luckily we are close to the tipping point along Scott St. where the NIMBY's can no longer claim buildings over 7 stories tall DoN't FiT tHe NeIgHbOurHooD.

[J.OT13]

Assuming this is RLA, based on the SoHo Italia-esque podiums.

[rocketphish]

The proposed redevelopment, consisting of three residential high-rise buildings and a pedestrian plaza and thoroughfare. The redevelopment of this site will require the demolition of the existing Granite Curling Club, commercial units, and their adjacent surface parking lots.

The property is currently divided into five parcels, occupied by the Granite Curling Club, a few commercial businesses, and surface parking. The North edge of the site meets the public along one of Ottawa’s busiest thoroughfares. Towards the West, the site is met by Athlone Avenue, a residential street. Along the South edge, a large park services the community. This park, historically and currently, acts as bridge between community oriented infrastructures such as a Gymnastic Club, and Curling Club, flanking its South and North edges.

The proposed towers, one comprised of 40 storeys, one of 36 storeys, and the third of 20 storeys, all encompass five story podiums. The towers, provide density to the neighbourhood, as they contain a total of 868 units. The ground levels of the building’s podiums will house commercial spaces, amenity spaces, a gym, and bicycle storage. The phased development will be completed with four to six levels of underground parking, containing +/- 567 parking spaces, resulting in a minimum ratio of 0.5 parking spaces for residences and 0.1 for visitors. Additionally, +/- 643 bicycle stalls are included, along with additional bicycle storage at grade.

Architect: Hobin Architecture


Development application:
https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...2-0037/details

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[RideauRat]

This is going to.. how to put this.. ruffle some feathers.

[kwoldtimer]

How so?

[HighwayStar]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

How so?

My kids grew up on Athlone Ave, about 300m south of here.

I know a lady that lives less than a block from Superstore, however to this day she refuses to shop there as it "ruined the neighbourhood"

Several of my modern, hipster neighbours thought the Metropole was completely out of character for the area.

And this isn't really getting started on the NIMBYs...

break out the popcorn... unfortunately