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Old Posted Dec 5, 2020, 6:57 PM
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Biden only got 63% in DC metro?
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Does OP (or anyone else) have updated NYC MSA figures?
New York MSA

Biden - 5,424,994 (63.4%)
Trump - 3,044,635 (35.6%)
Third Parties - 89.427 (1.0%)
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Biden only got 63% in DC metro?
city lab might've have been using preliminary results data before the crush of mail-in votes got tabulated, and as we all know, those swung decidedly for biden in most places.

the city lab map also has NYC's MSA at only 59.5% biden, and that's ~4 points below what ChiSoxRox just calculated above, so perhaps the DC MSA will be around 67-68% when it's all said and done.
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city lab might've have been using preliminary results data before the crush of mail-in votes got tabulated, and as we all know, those swung decidedly for biden in most places.

the city lab map also has NYC's MSA at only 59.5% biden, and that's ~4 points below what ChiSoxRox just calculated above, so perhaps the DC MSA will be around 67-68% when it's all said and done.
Perhaps, although the OP of this thread already had DC into the 70s for Biden (admittedly only using the binary Biden-Trump totals) and that was early in the mail-in vote. Even without the District, the MSA is a 70.4%-28.1% split.

Washington MSA

Biden - 2,320,658 (72.8%)
Trump - 818,418 (25.7%)
Third Parties - 49,360 (1.6%)

Trump got more total votes from Utah (3.2 million people) than the DC MSA (6.3 million).
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^ oh cool.

Well that kinda makes all of the data in that city lab article suspect.

I wonder if they got chicago's MSA wrong as well.
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^ oh cool.

Well that kinda makes all of the data in that city lab article suspect.

I wonder if they got chicago's MSA wrong as well.
IMO it looks like they simply typo'd the DC number (73.4% is in line with this thread's OP).

I'm crunching the Chicago numbers, but the CityLab number checks out with this thread's OP.

ETA:

Chicago MSA

Biden - 2,882,833 (65.0%)
Trump - 1,475,456 (33.3%)
Third Parties - 78,023 (1.8%)

(Without Cook County, still a 54.7%-43.4% Biden lead.)
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At least Chicago is basically correct.
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Chicago MSA

Biden - 2,882,833 (65.0%)
Trump - 1,475,456 (33.3%)
Third Parties - 78,023 (1.8%)

(Without Cook County, still a 54.7%-43.4% Biden lead.)
thanks for calculating.

i wonder if the chicago MSA without cook county ever went blue prior to obama?
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thanks for calculating.

i wonder if the chicago MSA without cook county ever went blue prior to obama?
Looks like Bill Clinton (and LBJ, FDR in '36) won the rest of the MSA, thanks to the margins in NW Indiana.

But if you take out Lake County, Indiana as well, then it turns out the last time the Chicago MSA minus the urban core went blue was 1852.

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To put it another way, Obama is the first Democrat to win the Chicago outskirts, since Chicago has actually been an urban center.
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Weird they would put the preliminary results out in a Dec. 4 article.
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Some city proper results (via talkelections forum):

D vote

Detroit 94%
Seattle 88.5%
Minneapolis 86.4%
Portland 83.8%
Boston 82.6%
Atlanta 81.8%
Cleveland 79.9%
Buffalo 79%
Milwaukee 78.8%
Pittsburgh 78%
Austin 77.3%
Cincinnati 77.3%
Los Angeles 77.3%
Memphis 76.8%
Dallas 69.7%
Columbus 67.3%
Houston 63.9%
Phoenix 58.5%
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Some city proper results (via talkelections forum):

D vote

Detroit 94%
Seattle 88.5%
Minneapolis 86.4%
Portland 83.8%
Boston 82.6%
Atlanta 81.8%
Cleveland 79.9%
Buffalo 79%
Milwaukee 78.8%
Pittsburgh 78%
Austin 77.3%
Cincinnati 77.3%
Los Angeles 77.3%
Memphis 76.8%
Dallas 69.7%
Columbus 67.3%
Houston 63.9%
Phoenix 58.5%
Biden won Salt Lake City with roughly 80% of the vote.
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SLC voted to the left of NYC
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Okay, so, I did the math based on the precinct breakdown and it wasn't quite 80%.

Biden won Salt Lake City with 76.3% of the vote (72,923 of 95,531 votes cast).

Trump won only 19.6% of the vote, with the rest going third party.
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The city of Chicago slots in right behind boston with an 82.5% biden share.

Not too shabby for a really big city over 200 sq. miles with ~2.7M people.
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Some city proper results (via talkelections forum):

D vote

Detroit 94%
Seattle 88.5%
Minneapolis 86.4%
Portland 83.8%
Boston 82.6%
Atlanta 81.8%
Cleveland 79.9%
Buffalo 79%
Milwaukee 78.8%
Pittsburgh 78%
Austin 77.3%
Cincinnati 77.3%
Los Angeles 77.3%
Memphis 76.8%
Dallas 69.7%
Columbus 67.3%
Houston 63.9%
Phoenix 58.5%
Denver = D + 79.5%
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It’s been suggested by those who must believe that some grand fix was in that Biden underperformed in most major cities and did worse with blacks and latinos, but conveniently only did better in a few critical swing states and in those were the only states that were crap at dealing with mail in voting.
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San Francisco: 85% for Biden.
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Moving past the page break
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One thing I've noticed in the data this year is the collapse in third-party votes.
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