NEW YORK | 175 Park Avenue (Grand Hyatt) | 1,575 FT | 86 FLOORS - Page 71

NYguy · #**1401** Posted **Sep 11, 2021, 5:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by citybooster

I'm not against local input per se, sometimes it can be very helpful to have some collaboration between the community(at least those who aren't outright anti-development come hell or high water) and developers. But I do hate these boards that seem to be dedicated to sabotaging development even if it also is beneficial to the community.

What FAR then will the builders actually use, then? Not exactly up to speed on that kind of detail here.

Because they are combining lots, the actual planned FAR is around 11.7 for the entire site. But considering just the Hyatt site, the Midtown East zoning has an as-of-right FAR of 27 (through air rights transfers and payments). It also allows for 2 separate special permits that give a bonus FAR of 3 for each:

But the developers are only seeking to use a portion of one of those permits, leaving 352,392 sf of floor space on the floor. The community board and borough president want to make sure they can’t use that additional floor space.

C. · #**1402** Posted **Sep 11, 2021, 7:26 PM**

Pity Cuomo didn’t go full Brooklyn Yards on some sites before leaving office. Nothing better than reminding racist and provincial NIMBYs that development in NYC effects the entire health of the region. The needs of the many outweighs the xenophobia of a few.

NYguy · #**1403** Posted **Sep 12, 2021, 1:06 AM**

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Pity Cuomo didn’t go full Brooklyn Yards on some sites before leaving office. Nothing better than reminding racist and provincial NIMBYs that development in NYC effects the entire health of the region. The needs of the many outweighs the xenophobia of a few.

Any sites that can be developed will be developed. Doesn't matter who's in office. Real estate is the one constant in the city.

MAC123 · #**1404** Posted **Sep 12, 2021, 4:37 AM**

If they intend to have a flat roof behind the lattice crown, ( Which is an assumption I know, they´ve shared very little about the top as the most important feature right now is the base, which is a masterpiece in my opinion ) I´d love to see some sort of observation deck up there. I´d have to guess there would be mechanical up there in the current plans, but I can always dream. ( also I realize that looking through the lattices wouldn´t be ideal, but I´d still love to see it happen )

NYguy · #**1405** Posted **Sep 12, 2021, 2:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by MAC123

If they intend to have a flat roof behind the lattice crown, ( Which is an assumption I know, they´ve shared very little about the top as the most important feature right now is the base, which is a masterpiece in my opinion ) I´d love to see some sort of observation deck up there. I´d have to guess there would be mechanical up there in the current plans, but I can always dream. ( also I realize that looking through the lattices wouldn´t be ideal, but I´d still love to see it happen )

There will be a flat roof in the crown with a couple of levels on top. Like other buildings, it will be full of mechanical and maintenance equipment.

manchester united · #**1406** Posted **Sep 14, 2021, 5:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

Any sites that can be developed will be developed. Doesn't matter who's in office. Real estate is the one constant in the city.

Is there finally the chance to fill that hole in Midtown Manhattan (between the 43rd street and the 57th street to east of the 8th avenue)?

JMKeynes · #**1407** Posted **Sep 14, 2021, 6:07 PM**

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Is there finally the chance to fill that hole in Midtown Manhattan (between the 43rd street and the 57th street to east of the 8th avenue)?

I assume that you're referring to the West of 8th. That area has tons of beautiful old low-rise buildings.

PF77 · #**1408** Posted **Sep 16, 2021, 8:21 AM**

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I assume that you're referring to the West of 8th. That area has tons of beautiful old low-rise buildings.

Unless you really don't like Musical Theatre, and you did mean East of 8th..

Xing Lin · #**1409** Posted **Sep 17, 2021, 7:07 AM**

Some models that I made of this tower, in 1:1700 and 1:3000 scale:

Hyatt models by Xing Lin, on Flickr

Templates if anyone would like to make one for themselves

1:1700:
https://i.imgur.com/8A9mCLA.png
https://i.imgur.com/BnRQsYr.png
https://i.imgur.com/9TT4Jbd.png
1:3000:
https://i.imgur.com/XEvgg2A.png

JMKeynes · #**1410** Posted **Sep 17, 2021, 10:58 AM**

Nice work!

chris08876 · #**1411** Posted **Sep 17, 2021, 11:05 AM**

Can't wait for renderings that showcase the lighting at night. I can just picture an amber hue, for a real Gotham look.

JMKeynes · #**1412** Posted **Sep 17, 2021, 11:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by chris08876

Can't wait for renderings that showcase the lighting at night. I can just picture an amber hue, for a real Gotham look.

It's a hell of a town!

Raysiri · #**1413** Posted **Sep 17, 2021, 1:33 PM**

New York is gonna be the greatest skyline the world will ever see…

NYguy · #**1414** Posted **Sep 17, 2021, 6:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Xing Lin

Some models that I made of this tower, in 1:1700 and 1:3000 scale:

Hyatt models by Xing Lin, on Flickr

Very nice.

NYguy · #**1415** Posted **Sep 22, 2021, 1:31 PM**

City Planning vote is on October 18th, then it’s on to the City Council for final approval.

JMKeynes · #**1416** Posted **Sep 22, 2021, 1:50 PM**

gramsjdg · #**1417** Posted **Sep 22, 2021, 10:05 PM**

The extra 150' included in these renders makes a big difference (in a positive way) compared to the much more squat-looking ~1500' "official" renders

NYguy · #**1418** Posted **Sep 23, 2021, 1:30 PM**

^ The drawing in the graphic is 1,566 ft. They vary.

Xing Lin · #**1419** Posted **Sep 24, 2021, 7:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by JMKeynes

Nice work!

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Originally Posted by NYguy

Very nice.

Thanks very much guys!

MAC123 · #**1420** Posted **Sep 27, 2021, 1:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

City Planning vote is on October 18th, then it’s on to the City Council for final approval.

I have high hopes that this will pass both votes pretty easily. It's just too good of a proposal to miss. Of course, that may very well just be a boatload of optimism.