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Originally Posted by HooverDam
Really? Don't tell that to UCLA and Cal Berkley.
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California is just a little bit different than Arizona. Arizona has 3 universities and about 10 colleges. Yet you're comparing that to a state that has HUNDREDS of colleges and universities, many of them public. Laughable.
When a state has an abundance of colleges and universities, some can afford to be more exclusionary. When you have 3 universities, that doesn't quite work. Still, UCLA and UC Berkeley are MUCH cheaper for California residents than any private college/university is.
You forget so quickly that in California's affirmative action days, UCLA and UC Berkeley were required to accept a certain percentage of African-American and Mexican-American students.
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Originally Posted by HooverDam
College is expensive, cry me a river.
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Uh, ok. So because of that, we're supposed to just let thousands of lower and middle-income college students forego higher education? I guess we'll just let those students go without a college education and then hop on welfare, and YOU can support them for the rest of their lives. Good plan.
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Originally Posted by HooverDam
So instead of people paying a reasonable price for a service, we should artificially hold the price down to benefit a small minority?
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I don't know where you get this idea that low and middle-income students are a "small" minority. You need to open your eyes. In a state with as few universities as Arizona, it is ridiculous to channel lower-income students into one university. There is no need for that. Maybe you came from a house with diamond-studded toilet paper, but most students do not. If you want to push these students aside because of your conservative ideology, prepare for the consequences.
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Originally Posted by HooverDam
I get SO sick of people bitching about the price of college. Do people realize all the financial aid, scholarships, etc that are out there? If you didn't do well enough in High School to earn a scholarship, tough, Im sorry. I went to a school that costs 3 to 4 times as much as the Arizona schools and didn't pay for most of it because I hit the books in High School and worked my ass off looking for scholarships. If you can't do the same, get a wrench, learn to fix a car. College is not some birth right, we ought to quit treating it as such.
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Well, you need to get over it. Sorry that people on a tight budget make you sick. Very often, the only way lower and middle-income students make it through college is because of these scholarships and grants. Sometimes, it just isn't enough. Pull your head out of the sand. Our last president, in all his greatness
, slashed the maximum financial aid amounts that students could take out.
Many students who can't afford college do pick up a trade. However, we should not exclude people from a college education because of circumstances that are often out of their control.
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Originally Posted by HooverDam
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