NEW YORK | 532 Neptune Avenue | 470 FT | 40 FLOORS - Page 3

NYguy · #41 Posted **Jun 23, 2015, 5:45 PM**

http://www.bensonhurstbean.com/2015/...-a-expiration/

Trump Village Tower Developers Issued Building Permits Days Before 421-A Expiration

chris08876 · #42 Posted **Aug 10, 2015, 8:14 PM**

Revealed: 532 Neptune Avenue, Coney Island’s Future Tallest Building

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Job applications for the building indicate its residential portion will be especially large, comprising 514,000 square feet to be split between 544 apartments. YIMBY’s tipster sent word that the unit count has been revised down to 524, possibly indicating ongoing changes. The retail component will total 162,000 square feet on the first three floors, replacing an existing 120,000 square foot strip mall.

While NIMBYs have expressed unfounded anger over the closure of the Trump Village Shopping Center, the new building will be a major improvement compared to the existing structure, bringing more retail, a significant number of new apartments, as well as community amenities (the smallest component will be a 16,000 square foot community facility space).

The building’s height is slightly larger than the 430-foot figure we first reported, which only measured to the highest occupied floor. 532 Neptune Avenue will actually top-out 470 feet above street level, giving a significant boost to the Coney Island skyline, which is currently dominated by clusters of 20-odd story apartment blocks.

In terms of appearance, the tower will be relatively simple and glassy, and balconies will be included. Whether the building will hold rentals or condos remains to be seen, but PTACs are not apparent in the renderings, hopefully indicating the environmentally and aesthetically-unfriendly scourge will be absent from this development.

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http://www.yimbynews.com/2015/08/rev...-building.html

steyin · #43 Posted **Aug 10, 2015, 9:55 PM**

Well, its not as tacky as the other condos built down Neptune around Coney Island Ave & Sheepshead I suppose.

mrnyc · #44 Posted **Aug 11, 2015, 10:54 AM**

while the tower is fine, i am dubious of what will replace the useful, blue collar shopping in trump village plaza.

steyin · #45 Posted **Aug 11, 2015, 1:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by mrnyc

while the tower is fine, i am dubious of what will replace the useful, blue collar shopping in trump village plaza.

Agreed. Ralph Lauren in no way fits that neighborhood, and the older crowd will complain about Whole Food's prices. Heck even the Gap isn't quite right. There is one on 86th street and 21st Ave and that one isn't too good, more catered towards kids.

Also with all the major grocery store chains being bought out they would be better off with a Stop & Shop there.

antinimby · #46 Posted **Aug 11, 2015, 3:25 PM**

steyin, are you there regularly? Can you give updates? Are the stores demo'd yet? Are they excavating?

I'm so happy for this development.

About the stores. It's happening all over the city: mom and pops displaced by national chains and bank branches. Nothing new there. Blame New Yorkers. They like their Starbucks and CVS's.

aaron38 · #47 Posted **Aug 11, 2015, 7:52 PM**

I just read through this thread, and it really exposes a big problem with these old tower-in-park developments. None of them are mixed use, none include first floor retail. All the retail supporting the neighborhood was dumped into one or two large strip malls. So when the time comes to redevelop those strip malls, everyone naturally freaks out.

Always going to be growing pain problems where retail is lumped together instead of being distributed.

steyin · #48 Posted **Aug 11, 2015, 10:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by antinimby

steyin, are you there regularly? Can you give updates? Are the stores demo'd yet? Are they excavating?

I'm so happy for this development.

About the stores. It's happening all over the city: mom and pops displaced by national chains and bank branches. Nothing new there. Blame New Yorkers. They like their Starbucks and CVS's.

Not regularly, but my grandmother lives down the block in Building 3 at Luna Park and my Aunt lives right in Trump Village. I'll see what they can inform me of lately.

toddguy · #49 Posted **Aug 12, 2015, 7:15 PM**

'Merchants in the doomed strip mall said Cammeby representatives promised to find them new homes in the vacant Royal Palms spa, about a block away.

“They’re trying not to hurt anybody,” said one merchant who declined to give his name.

“They’re offering people money to buy them out” of existing leases.

A spokeswoman confirmed that the firm is planning to revamp the former bathhouse to accommodate the businesses ...'

^^So is this still happening? As long as they can accommodate most of the business nearby, I don't see that there really is a problem.

NYguy · #50 Posted **May 3, 2016, 2:02 PM**

http://therealdeal.com/2016/05/02/sc...wer-suit-says/

Schron destroying Trump Village store to make way for Coney Island tower, suit says
Clothing chain DII says its lease doesn't expire for 7 years

May 02, 2016
By Kathryn Brenzel

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Rubin Schron’s Cammeby’s International is destroying a discount store at Trump Village Shopping Center to make way for a rental tower in Coney Island, a new lawsuit claims.

Clothing chain DII, operated by Dee & Dee, alleges that Cammeby’s has violated the terms of its lease by trying to kick it out of the Neptune Avenue location. The store’s lease doesn’t expire for another seven years, but the developer has already started construction around the store, the lawsuit states.

A 40-plus-story tower is planned for the store’s location, at 543 Neptune Avenue, though demolition permits have not yet been filed.

Construction has already “disrupted the day-to-day operations of plaintiff’s retail store and damaged plaintiff’s irreplaceable customer goodwill,” the lawsuit claims. The store contends that matters will only get worse, that the developer will gradually ramp of construction and the current disruptions are “merely the tip of the proverbial iceberg, a small indications of epic and massive disruptions that inevitably must follow.”

A representative for Cammeby’s could not immediately be reach for comment. DII is seeking $75 million in damages.

The shopping center is located near the housing complex by the same name, which was built by Donald Trump’s father, Fred Trump. Cammeby’s bought the shopping complex in 2013 for $25 million, property records show. The tower planned for the site is expected to have 544 apartments and 162,000 square feet of new retail space.

The project has faced some opposition from residents as well as City Comptroller Scott Stringer, who have argued that the tower — which will be the tallest in its neighborhood — will be out of step with the character of the neighborhood. The developer is also planning a four-story commercial building nearby with community space.

In October, The Real Deal delved into the state of Schron’s business. His two sons, Avi and Eli, are shaping the company by embarking on increasingly ambitious ground-up construction projects.

chris08876 · #51 Posted **Sep 2, 2016, 12:26 AM**

Some more NIMBY bs. " Dialogue with the community"

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Cucco calls for ‘new dialogue’ in Trump Village project

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The developer behind a proposed high-rise building at the former site of Trump Village Shopping Center in Coney Island should start talking to community residents about the massive project, and soon, a political candidate said.

Kate Cucco, who is challenging state Assemblymember Pamela Harris in the Sept. 13 Democratic Primary for the 46th Assembly District, called on developer Cammeby’s International Group to begin a new dialogue with the community about the tower it plans to construct at 532 Neptune Ave.

The proposed development has been met with resistance from Coney Island residents who charge that a building of that size would be out of scale with surrounding structures.

Residents have also expressed concern over the possibility of toxins poisoning the ground at the site.

At the very least, the site needs remediation before work can continue, according to Cucco.

"After talking with hundreds of concerned residents in the area, it became clear to me that too many question marks remain about what is exactly in store with this development," Cucco said. "It sits on polluted ground that needs to be remediated. It was initially smaller but has now grown to 42-stories. Noisy construction occurs overnight. Development projects of this scale must provide the community with regular updates so they are made aware of any changes or unforeseen issues that may arise as construction happens."

Cucco said plans call for the building to be 42 stories tall. Various media reports have listed the building at 40 stories

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http://www.brooklyneagle.com/article...illage-project

Busy Bee · #52 Posted **Sep 2, 2016, 1:39 AM**

^oh good lord

artspook · #53 Posted **Sep 3, 2016, 4:10 AM**

470 ft high . . great . .
But see any fun Coney Island character ? . .
. . We're given a cold dead plate glass base . .
a insipid featureless plate glass crown . .
Is it Phoenix ? . . suburban Chicago ? . .
where's the amusement park flavor ? . .
how 'bout a whimsical architectural gesture . .
how 'bout something "beachy" ? . . a mere bit of tacky vibe . .
a hint of vaudeville . . carnival freaks . . colorful sideshows . .
a suggestion of the original Luna Park . .
a pleasing reference to parachute-jump structure . .
too much colorless propriety . . no sense of place . .

antinimby · #54 Posted **Sep 3, 2016, 4:42 PM**

^ It's a residential project, not an attraction.

It won't matter how nice you make it. The NIMBYs will find something to bitch about.

It's funny how they are complaining about the loss of the stores. If this land was originally vacant and the developer wanted to build the retail strip just like what is there now, the NIMBYs would be against that too, complaining about how it will bring all sorts traffic and noise. They are just irrational.

Best advice to the developer would be to just ignore them. Your project is as-of-right. Build it the way you want.

Crawford · #55 Posted **Sep 3, 2016, 7:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by artspook

470 ft high . . great . .
But see any fun Coney Island character ? . .

This isn't on the Coney Island midway. It's inland, more akin to Brighton Beach. Residential neighborhoods aren't going to be built using carnival templates.

steyin · #56 Posted **Sep 15, 2016, 3:37 PM**

The new design for the Sheepsheadbay Road commercial building is horrible. The previous one was much better.

I do agree though on one point, this tower does not fit in well contextually. CI is full of character and rich history; shame none of it was used as reference even if it was minimal.

chris08876 · #57 Posted **Sep 15, 2016, 9:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by steyin

The new design for the Sheepsheadbay Road commercial building is horrible. The previous one was much better.

I do agree though on one point, this tower does not fit in well contextually. CI is full of character and rich history; shame none of it was used as reference even if it was minimal.

Have you seen the surroundings? Something like this is leagues better than the commie style blocks in the area.

chris08876 · #58 Posted **Nov 17, 2016, 11:36 PM**

40-Story Residential Tower At 532 Neptune Avenue In Coney Island

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Cammeby’s is building a massive mixed-use project next to the Trump Village co-ops on Coney Island. The development, called Neptune/Sixth, has grabbed headlines because it includes a 40-story residential tower that will eventually replace Trump Village Shopping Center. Today, YIMBY has the first detailed images of the 430-foot-tall skyscraper at 532 Neptune Avenue and the office and retail buildings that will come with it.

We unveiled a design from SLCE last year. S9 Architecture has taken over the design of the project, and these renderings offer an exclusive glimpse of south Brooklyn’s future tallest residential building. Plans were filed early last year for the development, which will span 752,880 square feet. It will hold 544 apartments and 511,115 square feet of residential space, plus 90,000 square feet of retail and 15,521 square feet of community facilities.

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http://www.yimbynews.com/2016/11/new...ey-island.html

steyin · #59 Posted **Nov 18, 2016, 5:47 PM**

Man, I would have never expected the newer version to be more dull than before (minus the entrance/base). Seems the balconies have been removed also, and the facade steps back instead of gentle curves.

chris08876 · #60 Posted **Nov 19, 2016, 12:38 AM**

I get a B2 (Atlantic Yards) vibe with the design. Might be one of those cases where the rendering doesn't do justice, and possibly, once it's finished, it might look better in person. Although the base is kinda nice IMO. Its better than the rent controlled apts nearby.