Marquee Residence | 102.9 m | 32 fl | Complete

[realcity]

That TELEX tag is everywhere.

[Chronamut]

Originally Posted by Sehnsucht

Well why don't they put up some real wood hoarding that's taller?

NOTHING, and I repeat, NOTHING will prevent a tagger from tagging what they want - I have seen tags in areas of the city where I have honestly had to scratch my head and wonder how the HELL they got up there to do it.

The best example that comes to mind was PAC. That tag is in some pretty awesome and crazy places in the city.

[Davis137]

So how are things going with this building now? They must have it upto 5 floors or taller by now...

[davidcappi]

They're working on the 7th floor (last floor of the podium) right now and then they should be onto the tower.

[Dr Awesomesauce]

Tagging

Does anyone have any insight into the psychology of tagging? And I'm not talking about the primitive act of marking one's territory.

What is it that drives someone to deface a building just for the sake of it?

Is it anger?
Is it egomania?
Is it poverty?
Is it ugly architecture?

[atnor]

Originally Posted by Dr Awesomesauce

Tagging

Does anyone have any insight into the psychology of tagging? And I'm not talking about the primitive act of marking one's territory.

What is it that drives someone to deface a building just for the sake of it?

Is it anger?
Is it egomania?
Is it poverty?
Is it ugly architecture?

It falls under the very broad umbrella of art. The tagger see themselves as an artist expressing their creativity. I think it’s a load of b.s and will call a spade a spade: it’s ugly and degenerate.

[TheRitsman]

Originally Posted by atnor

It falls under the very broad umbrella of art. The tagger see themselves as an artist expressing their creativity. I think it’s a load of b.s and will call a spade a spade: it’s ugly and degenerate.

I've seen tagging that is legitimately awesome, and while it is generally not appreciated, it kind of adds to the atmosphere of some places. Hamilton's tagging is being done by none other than talentless asshats. They literally just draw their name or "name" onto walls with spray paint. Garbage handwriting and all.

[durandy]

Originally Posted by Dr Awesomesauce

Tagging

Does anyone have any insight into the psychology of tagging? And I'm not talking about the primitive act of marking one's territory.

What is it that drives someone to deface a building just for the sake of it?

Is it anger?
Is it egomania?
Is it poverty?
Is it ugly architecture?

I'd wager there's an overabundance of MA proposals connecting graffiti to social inequality, and yet in my experience, Canadian cities have some of the lowest graffiti rates that I've seen anywhere, short of places like Singapore where flogging maybe acts as a deterrent. European cities are over-run with it, but nowhere on the scale of Sao Paulo, where if there's even an inch of a ledge, a tagger will find it.

[davidcappi]

Precast cladding panels on site this morning.

[TheRitsman]

They're putting up cladding prior to the tower being even close to started, nevermind finished.

Is that not a bit strange? I mean I am glad, because I hate when you have the bare concrete block for years.

[Berklon]

Originally Posted by TheRitsman

I've seen tagging that is legitimately awesome, and while it is generally not appreciated, it kind of adds to the atmosphere of some places.

I personally don't care if the tagger has the artistic talent of a Monet or Rembrandt, if no permission was given - then he/she should be arrested.

What's the punishment if someone is caught tagging?

I say a fine is a given, plus 1 year for a first offence.
Second tagging offence gets 5 years.

Let's see how important it is to tag when you're risking time in jail.

[TheRitsman]

Originally Posted by Berklon

I personally don't care if the tagger has the artistic talent of a Monet or Rembrandt, if no permission was given - then he/she should be arrested.

What's the punishment if someone is caught tagging?

I say a fine is a given, plus 1 year for a first offence.
Second tagging offence gets 5 years.

Let's see how important it is to tag when you're risking time in jail.

That is how you increase crime. You give youths a criminal record, all they will ever know is crime. Goodbye student loans, real jobs, assisted housing, ever dealing with kids.

A future 50 year old with no prospects and a life ruined without possibility for real rehabilitation, because some people think tagging deserves a ridiculous prison sentence.

Non-violent crime should never land you in jail until it becomes egregious. A massive fine and forced community service is enough. How about... 200 hours of community service removing graffiti? Better the community and not give them a stupid prison sentence and ruin a life. C'mon, we're better then that.

[atnor]

I agree with prison sentences and public shamings.

[king10]

Originally Posted by theritsman

that is how you increase crime. You give youths a criminal record, all they will ever know is crime. Goodbye student loans, real jobs, assisted housing, ever dealing with kids.

A future 50 year old with no prospects and a life ruined without possibility for real rehabilitation, because some people think tagging deserves a ridiculous prison sentence.

Non-violent crime should never land you in jail until it becomes egregious. A massive fine and forced community service is enough. How about... 200 hours of community service removing graffiti? Better the community and not give them a stupid prison sentence and ruin a life. C'mon, we're better then that.

qft

[SteelTown]

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/2...ys-as-example/

A 24-year-old man with a history of mental problems has been sentenced to 60 days in jail for a graffiti spree in which he defaced phone booths, bus shelters and public buildings from Dundas to downtown Hamilton.

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/2...rrested-again/

One of Hamilton’s most prolific graffiti taggers is under arrest for the second time in little over a year.

The 19-year-old man, convicted last year of spraying his “Keenur” tag at at least 63 locations from Stoney Creek to Dundas, was released on probation after serving 72 days in jail.

[davidcappi]

It is pretty common for buildings to begin being clad while the upper floors are still being formed.

[Dr Awesomesauce]

I'm gonna go with egomania/ mental illness.

And for those who think graffiti is beautiful, visit Europe (as durandy mentions) and compare that art with the beautiful sculptures, paintings and architecture that made Europe the centre of the universe.

It's further proof that Western civilisation is crumbling before our eyes.

[davidcappi]

[SteelTown]

Originally Posted by SteelTown

Looks like it'll be blue glass

So based on this, most will have that white/cream facade and black for the trim and main floor.

[lachlanholmes]

Originally Posted by davidcappi

well thats ugly