Ottawa Macdonald-Cartier International Airport (YOW/CYOW) - Page 230

Dominion301 · #**4581** Posted **Sep 4, 2020, 4:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by caboose

It has gone down by three!?

It’s Saturday. It’s always lower.

Today’s departure count: 15

Dominion301 · #**4582** Posted **Sep 4, 2020, 4:14 PM**

AC YOW sun changes.

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

Winter route cuts by AC.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-03sep20/

Interesting how they’re not operating YOW-VRA this winter, but are adding a short season of YOW-CCC on Mondays: https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...-feb-apr-2021/

RomanR27 · #**4583** Posted **Sep 4, 2020, 7:44 PM**

Couldn't do a dummy booking on AC for CCC but it appears, based on the RoutesOnline article, that it would be on a mainline 320?

Dominion301 · #**4584** Posted **Sep 4, 2020, 7:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by RomanR27

Couldn't do a dummy booking on AC for CCC but it appears, based on the RoutesOnline article, that it would be on a mainline 320?

Correct. There isn't a lot of Rouge left to go around. I wonder if we'll have any Florida flying this winter? Maybe on weekends?

Truenorth00 · #**4585** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 12:58 AM**

Was really hoping this crisis might finally get Rouge dumped.

caboose · #**4586** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 2:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Truenorth00

Was really hoping this crisis might finally get Rouge dumped.

Yes, let's all hope that cheaper flights get dumped.

Truenorth00 · #**4587** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 3:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by caboose

Yes, let's all hope that cheaper flights get dumped.

Not surprised that you don't get how economics works. Competition makes flights cheaper. Not branding.

RomanR27 · #**4588** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 3:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by caboose

Yes, let's all hope that cheaper flights get dumped.

Yep, sun vacations with AC definitely dropped in price when they switched from mainline to Rouge in Fall 2019. /s

caboose · #**4589** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 3:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Truenorth00

Not surprised that you don't get how economics works. Competition makes flights cheaper. Not branding.

Shutting down Rouge doesn't make for more competition. Take Canada Back!

Truenorth00 · #**4590** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 4:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by caboose

Shutting down Rouge doesn't make for more competition. Take Canada Back!

Keeping Rouge doesn't make for more competition either. You get that Rouge is part of Air Canada right?

Dominion301 · #**4591** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 5:57 PM**

Today’s departure count: 12

The Conductor · #**4592** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 6:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by caboose

Shutting down Rouge doesn't make for more competition. Take Canada Back!

That is EXACTLY it! You sense I believe what others do - we have alt-right trolls who for whatever reason only want WestJet in the airline business and view anything connected to Air Canada as bad. This forum needs to do a better job at clamping down on the dog whistles

Truenorth00 · #**4593** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 8:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by The Conductor

That is EXACTLY it! You sense I believe what others do - we have alt-right trolls who for whatever reason only want WestJet in the airline business and view anything connected to Air Canada as bad. This forum needs to do a better job at clamping down on the dog whistles

The only trolls here are you guys. Who seem to think that anybody with a different opinion is an "alt-right" troll.

Not liking Rouge doesn't mean somebody "only want WestJet in the airline business". What kind of twisted logic leads to that conclusion?

To be clear, I consider Rouge and Swoop no different than other flanker brands in Canada like Fido and Koodo. This kind of crap only happens in markets which lack competition. Companies that offer the illusion of competition. Rouge and Swoop are excuses to give you a shittier product for a marginal discount. Calling it out shouldn't be controversial.

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Originally Posted by The Conductor

This forum needs to do a better job at clamping down on the dog whistles

This forum needs to do a better job at policing the trolls who have taken over in the last two weeks.

caboose · #**4594** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 8:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Truenorth00

This forum needs to do a better job at policing the trolls who have taken over in the last two weeks.

The Conductor, member since May 2016, number of posts: 154

TrueNorth00, member since May 2017, number of posts: 5,733

Who's taking over?

Truenorth00 · #**4595** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 9:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by caboose

Who's taking over?

The trolls who aren't active for years and then show up with multiple accounts boosting each other and attacking regulars. There were no conspiracy theories about alt right trolls in a thread about an airport a month ago.

zzptichka · #**4596** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 9:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by caboose

Shutting down Rouge doesn't make for more competition. Take Canada Back!

Lol. Talk about dog whistles.
This is getting ridiculous.

Jayday23 · #**4597** Posted **Sep 5, 2020, 9:24 PM**

acottawa · #**4598** Posted **Sep 6, 2020, 6:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by Truenorth00

To be clear, I consider Rouge and Swoop no different than other flanker brands in Canada like Fido and Koodo. This kind of crap only happens in markets which lack competition. Companies that offer the illusion of competition. Rouge and Swoop are excuses to give you a shittier product for a marginal discount. Calling it out shouldn't be controversial.

To be fair, flanker brands exist in many segments of the economy, whether there is competition or not. Sobeys-Farmboy-Freshco, Gap-Old Navy-Banana Republic, VW-Audi-Skoda-Porche.

Phil McAvity · #**4599** Posted **Sep 6, 2020, 7:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by acottawa

To be fair, flanker brands exist in many segments of the economy, whether there is competition or not. Sobeys-Farmboy-Freshco, Gap-Old Navy-Banana Republic, VW-Audi-Skoda-Porche.

That's a great point, I don't know how Porsche has stayed in business with competitors out there like Skoda

casper · #**4600** Posted **Sep 6, 2020, 8:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by Truenorth00

Was really hoping this crisis might finally get Rouge dumped.

My understanding is the Rouge 767 fleet is gone. All the Rouge pilots and in flight staff have either been let go or transferred to mainline.

I think AC plans to keep the Rouge Airbus fleet as a separate fleet but it is unclear who will operate it until they start to restaff the Rouge operation.