LAS VEGAS | Boom Project Rundown! 2.0

Patrick · #1 Posted **Mar 14, 2006, 6:58 AM**

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BrandonJXN · #2 Posted **Mar 14, 2006, 3:56 PM**

So when will there be new rendrings for Palazzo?

Patrick · #3 Posted **Mar 14, 2006, 5:55 PM**

None have been released yet, besides that old one.

BrandonJXN · #4 Posted **Mar 14, 2006, 7:29 PM**

If I say this on SSC I'll get beheaded but the projects going on in Vegas are better than those going on in Dubai.

Juhl, H.U.E., Panorama, Las Ramblas, Stanhi, and Vegas 888 are my favorites.

Question: Why is Soho sitting on that massive base? Is there something in there?

Patrick · #5 Posted **Mar 14, 2006, 7:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by ThreeHundred

If I say this on SSC I'll get beheaded but the projects going on in Vegas are better than those going on in Dubai.

Juhl, H.U.E., Panorama, Las Ramblas, Stanhi, and Vegas 888 are my favorites.

Question: Why is Soho sitting on that massive base? Is there something in there?

Yeah thats a parking garage

JonVegas · #6 Posted **Mar 14, 2006, 10:27 PM**

There are some nice details on the base of soho but from far away theres really nothing to break up that flat white parking garage. I think it's a little too conservative. We'll see...

Ho-Dog · #7 Posted **Mar 15, 2006, 12:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by ThreeHundred

So when will there be new rendrings for Palazzo?

I am wondering about that as well, we need an update.

Vegas Grows Up · #8 Posted **Mar 15, 2006, 1:38 AM**

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Chad · #9 Posted **Mar 15, 2006, 2:54 AM**

Wow...Great Compilation!!! @_@

mhays · #10 Posted **Mar 15, 2006, 2:56 AM**

Many nice looking projects!

I wonder how many of those "going to happen" projects will actually get built. If half of them break ground in the next few years I'll be impressed and surprised.

To say nothing of the "approved" projects, whatever "approved" means.

Patrick · #11 Posted **Mar 15, 2006, 3:14 AM**

Approved means they passed the city council and they said yes. So it probably will happen.

Those views are AMAZING, the Marriott and Signature @ MGM Tower make a great skyline cluster. The Aladdin Paintjob really sucks, the blue stands out too much.

mhays · #12 Posted **Mar 15, 2006, 3:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by Patrick

Approved means they passed the city council and they said yes. So it probably will happen.

Getting a land use permit is easy.

The main killer of projects is a little detail called "market conditions". In LV the market conditions have turned negative for many projects, and they'll get worse.

The business media has been all over LV's plight -- Wall Street Journal, ENR, etc. Conventional wisdom has it that maybe 1/4 of LV's condo towers will get built anytime soon. A massive increase in construction prices is a key culprit.

GeorgeLV · #13 Posted **Mar 15, 2006, 5:24 AM**

Vegas Grows Up, just imagine how great those Panorama views will be when that parking lot is displaced by Project City Center...

comoneymaker · #14 Posted **Mar 15, 2006, 5:33 AM**

alright vegas needs 2 pages....one for casinos and the other commercial and res can i have a hard time telling which is which

Vegas Grows Up · #15 Posted **Mar 15, 2006, 6:33 AM**

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Patrick · #16 Posted **Mar 15, 2006, 8:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by comoneymaker

alright vegas needs 2 pages....one for casinos and the other commercial and res can i have a hard time telling which is which

Very few are actaully casinos or hotels, I'm slowly adding info to each project, but that takes a lot of time, I do it very slowly, so in the future you will be able too tell.

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Originally Posted by Vegas Grows Up

I have something very special on the way. I am going up again at night with my camera which does time exposure Stay tuned. And yes with City Center, it will rock!

That sounds cool!

SpeedyFarrar · #17 Posted **Mar 15, 2006, 9:02 AM**

mhays: Only a few projects are casinos so 1 thread is best. The casino projects are Red Rock, Encore @ Wynn, Cosmopolitan, Palazzo, City Center (main hotel), Echelon, W, and Las Ramblas. I may have missed one or two, but I got most of them.

VGU: Nice pictures! I wish I could hit the lottery and afford one of those condos.

The_Analyst · #18 Posted **Mar 15, 2006, 6:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Patrick

The Aladdin Paintjob really sucks, the blue stands out too much.

Hahaha...stands out too much? As opposed to emerald green MGM, a solid black pyramid, the skyline of Manhattan and the Eiffel Tower all within a mile? I do agree that the blue color is not esthetically pleasing but, hey, it's Vegas!

With respect to the view from Panorama I actually thought the opposite--once City Center is built out I am not sure the view will be that great. From the renderings and models I've seen the condo towers will be lined up in a boxy row along the freeway. Although they will not be a solid wall, the views directly east from Panorama will be mostly of those buildings. Views to the northwest and southeast should be amazing, though.

JonVegas · #19 Posted **Mar 15, 2006, 9:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by mhays

Getting a land use permit is easy.

The main killer of projects is a little detail called "market conditions". In LV the market conditions have turned negative for many projects, and they'll get worse.

The business media has been all over LV's plight -- Wall Street Journal, ENR, etc. Conventional wisdom has it that maybe 1/4 of LV's condo towers will get built anytime soon. A massive increase in construction prices is a key culprit.

LV's plight? The fact that any projects like this are being built in LV would have been unthinkable a few years ago. Even if every single project not now under construction was cancelled, LV would still have had a sizeable boom.

Even using your math of only 1/4 of the projects being built, that leaves 44 high-rise projects in the next 3 or so years.

Also in regards to conventional wisdom, in case you haven't noticed, it has never applied to Las Vegas. What makes you think it's right this time?

Ho-Dog · #20 Posted **Mar 15, 2006, 10:12 PM**

Sorry to get away from the present discussion, but Palms Place seems to be UC, steel is going vertical. Maybe someone else can drive up Hacienda and give us a second opinion.