Phoenix CityScape Thread - Page 376

Leo the Dog · #**7501** Posted **Apr 3, 2013, 2:26 PM**

Nice pics jjs5056! The view down Central is looking good.

I hope the surface parking lot on SE corner of Adams/central gets developed with something, maybe 4-5 stories in-fill.

HooverDam · #**7502** Posted **Apr 3, 2013, 5:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Leo the Dog

Nice pics jjs5056! The view down Central is looking good.

I hope the surface parking lot on SE corner of Adams/central gets developed with something, maybe 4-5 stories in-fill.

You may recall during the boom there was rumors of an aLoft hotel going there, which would've been perfect. Nothing too tall can go there because the old Phelps Dodge building somehow has CC&Rs protecting their view to the north. So something of the scale you're talking about would be all that could go there.

Jjs5056 · #**7503** Posted **Apr 4, 2013, 2:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by HooverDam

You may recall during the boom there was rumors of an aLoft hotel going there, which would've been perfect. Nothing too tall can go there because the old Phelps Dodge building somehow has CC&Rs protecting their view to the north. So something of the scale you're talking about would be all that could go there.

Yes, I was imagining an Aloft there the whole time I was strolling on Sunday.

Any chance at that reviving? I think they are building one in Tucson now that had been postponed?!

A hotel would be perfect or lofts above retail. Office would be a waste... That area desperately needs some life to tie a few pieces together- the Convention center to the Hotels to Hannys to Monroe (Ghost Lounge (is that a real place?) and Seamus) to CityScape...

nickw252 · #**7504** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 2:15 AM**

Eight floor plates on the west side.

Any pictures from above AZScraper?

HX_Guy · #**7505** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 2:22 AM**

Looking good! Thanks for keeping the update photos coming.

plinko · #**7506** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 3:42 AM**

Hey! Milk is only $1.79 at Albertsons!

...oh wait, sorry...I got distracted...

PHX31 · #**7507** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 3:51 AM**

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Hey! Milk is only $1.79 at Albertsons!

...oh wait, sorry...I got distracted...

Haha, worst. billboard. ever.

Vicelord John · #**7508** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 4:05 AM**

That's the first thing I noticed too.

nickw252 · #**7509** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 4:30 AM**

Every time I post a picture from that angle you smart asses make a comment about the billboard

Arquitect · #**7510** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 6:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by plinko

Hey! Milk is only $1.79 at Albertsons!

...oh wait, sorry...I got distracted...

The saddest part of this is that there isn't even an Albertson's in the complex!

Vicelord John · #**7511** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 11:14 AM**

I fail to see how a normal use of billboard advertising is "sad".

exit2lef · #**7512** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 11:58 AM**

It's sad because it's such an ordinary ad in what should be a major public space. When I think of big ads I remember seeing in Times Square, I don't think of milk for $1.79, I think of iconic ads such as Brooke Shields in her Calvin Klein jeans. Seeing mundane ads for grocery store sale prices just reinforces the perception that CityScape falls short in terms of being a defining public space for Phoenix. If CityScape were truly special, the ads there would be distinctive -- linked to major events and product launches rather than routine sale prices for commodity items. At least it's better than the one of the ads previously in that spot; it was for bail bonds.

Vicelord John · #**7513** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 1:32 PM**

You guys are unrealistic sometimes. Billboard content is not location specific, and it's just a billboard.

This place shouldn't even be muttered in the sme sentence as Times Square.

dtnphx · #**7514** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 3:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vicelord John

You guys are unrealistic sometimes. Billboard content is not location specific, and it's just a billboard.

This place shouldn't even be muttered in the sme sentence as Times Square.

Amen.

plinko · #**7515** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 5:07 PM**

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You guys are unrealistic sometimes. Billboard content is not location specific, and it's just a billboard.

This place shouldn't even be muttered in the sme sentence as Times Square.

True, but I personally think billboards in general (I'm not talking about building mounted signage) are tacky and completely unnecessary. One of the best things about Tempe is that they don't allow them (there may be a few grandfathered locations). But as soon as you get into Phoenix or Mesa? Visual clutter of the worst variety.

To have such a thing sitting on top of the building at your downtown nexus? A new building at that? Deplorable.

exit2lef · #**7516** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 8:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vicelord John

You guys are unrealistic sometimes. Billboard content is not location specific, and it's just a billboard.

This place shouldn't even be muttered in the sme sentence as Times Square.

Advertisers pay premium prices for certain locations, but clearly CityScape is not among them if it's running ads for bail bonds and supermarket milk. Your comment about Times Square is essentially correct but only reinforces my point. The mundane ads on these billboards add to the impresion that CityScape is not much better than most suburban intersections in terms of its value to advertisers. From a PR point of view, it would be better for CityScape to have no billboards at all than to have ones that remind people of how it has failed to become the signature project its developers and enablers promised.

Vicelord John · #**7517** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 10:29 PM**

advertisers pay premiums for certain locations... high visibility ones, which Cityscape is not, compared to, say, 16th street and Camelback.

nickw252 · #**7518** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 10:34 PM**

Elevator core is up one more level.

AZScraper · #**7519** Posted **Apr 18, 2013, 10:06 PM**

I noticed today that the re-bars are a lot taller than the previous floors when they are at this stage. Does anyone else notice the longer length or is it just me?

HX_Guy · #**7520** Posted **Apr 18, 2013, 10:14 PM**

How many floors are completed?

I believe the last floor is for the two story penthouse, so this may be the last floor they do and would explain the longer than normal rebar.