Atlanta Beltline

[shivtim]

I haven't seen what the plans are either, but I think the best place for a connection is at Jefferson Street. It would connect directly into where the new part of the Beltline on Marietta Street hits the westside connector. The terrain is elevated here to the east, making it easier to build a bridge over the railroad tracks without complicated ramps. Then it's about 1300 feet to the Proctor Creek Trail, utilizing GA Power right of way (which we know they can do because it's what was done with a big portion of the existing Proctor Creek Trail).

[Street Advocate]

Julien just general FYI you keep saying Northside, which idk if you mean an orientation or the street, but Northside Drive is nowhere nearby. I shared the connection for how it will cross from the existing trail across DLH southbound to the BeltLine’s segment 4.

I saw some older plans that included a connection point to Westside park, also nowhere near Northside, at the access point Shivtim indicated. People have crossed in that area on bike rides already.

[Julien]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

Julien just general FYI you keep saying Northside, which idk if you mean an orientation or the street, but Northside Drive is nowhere nearby. I shared the connection for how it will cross from the existing trail across DLH southbound to the BeltLine’s segment 4.

I saw some older plans that included a connection point to Westside park, also nowhere near Northside, at the access point Shivtim indicated. People have crossed in that area on bike rides already.

Sorry, DOUBLE brain fart this morning. I was saying Northside [Drive] but meaning to (also wrongly) say North Ave BUT is actually Hollowell Pkwy. Should have looked on the map (and I did since I posted Apple Map pics) or just said US78. Oddly US78 includes all 3.

Also I can't see how anyone could possibly pass there since you have to climb 2 fences and then cross the train tracks. There used to be some type of road that went through there and may be was what the bridge was for but it is ALL blocked off.

[Julien]

Also at the Red Arrow you can cross the tracks (no fence) from the Beltline. However it appears you are on GA Power property and there is no connection to Westside Park. GA Power blocks and at best it is dirt or crush and run (no pavement) and very uneven ground. Does anyone know what is GA Power property and what is Park property. GA Power does have a right of way through the park for high transmission lines going west towards my blue arrow. I took the pic at the Blue Arrow.

Seems this would also be an easy direct access from the Beltline but would GA Power allow it.



From Blue Arrow


Looking across the Beltline and towards the Park, Red Arrow.

[Julien]

Was scanning the Beltline info again and noticed this. When I came to this section a couple of weeks ago I thought it was odd to have little plaza and then the trail to weirdly divide only to come back together (waste of concrete). In the PDF brochure it says that the plaza is where Section 3, 4 and the West Connector meet up. So I guess the trail to the left (south) will have a connection in the middle running perpendicular to cross Hollowell Pkwy and the Connector heading downtown is behind me and ends at this point. So right will be north Beltline and left will be south Beltline (unless you just loop past the turn). This would also explain the solid yellow line dividing.

[trainiac]

Originally Posted by Julien

Was scanning the Beltline info again and noticed this. When I came to this section a couple of weeks ago I thought it was odd to have little plaza and then the trail to weirdly divide only to come back together (waste of concrete). In the PDF brochure it says that the plaza is where Section 3, 4 and the West Connector meet up. So I guess the trail to the left (south) will have a connection in the middle running perpendicular to cross Hollowell Pkwy and the Connector heading downtown is behind me and ends at this point. So right will be north Beltline and left will be south Beltline (unless you just loop past the turn). This would also explain the solid yellow line dividing.

That's where the connector ended for a while. I just used it as a cul-de-sac to turn back around when I biked it. I absolutely love that sign: miles to downtown and Stone Mountain

[Julien]

Some NOT so good news on the 1.3 mile Segment 4. Construction is going to take 2½ years. As stated in the Urbanize “For context, that’s almost exactly how long it took the Atlanta Braves’ $672-million Cobb County stadium to break ground and host its first game.” Unbelievable that an entire mini city with a professional stadium can be built in less time than it takes to build a “sidewalk”.

Guess we can expect an entrance from The Beltline into Westside Park before the end of the decade, maybe.

https://atlanta.urbanize.city/post/b...ur-development

[montydawg]

Originally Posted by Julien

Some NOT so good news on the 1.3 mile Segment 4. Construction is going to take 2½ years. As stated in the Urbanize “For context, that’s almost exactly how long it took the Atlanta Braves’ $672-million Cobb County stadium to break ground and host its first game.” Unbelievable that an entire mini city with a professional stadium can be built in less time than it takes to build a “sidewalk”.

Guess we can expect an entrance from The Beltline into Westside Park before the end of the decade, maybe.

https://atlanta.urbanize.city/post/b...ur-development

It is much cheaper to build things slowly with fewer employees than overstaff and work under tight deadlines. It is usually a more efficient use of equipment and employees going leaner (except when they have expensive rentals, like cranes, etc)

[trainiac]

Originally Posted by shivtim

I haven't seen what the plans are either, but I think the best place for a connection is at Jefferson Street. It would connect directly into where the new part of the Beltline on Marietta Street hits the westside connector. The terrain is elevated here to the east, making it easier to build a bridge over the railroad tracks without complicated ramps. Then it's about 1300 feet to the Proctor Creek Trail, utilizing GA Power right of way (which we know they can do because it's what was done with a big portion of the existing Proctor Creek Trail).

Just got an updated PATH map in the mail. If those two green dashes are accurate, it looks like they're planning to use the GA Power ROW. Which would mean an at-grade rail crossing

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

https://beltlineorg.wpenginepowered....g_20221103.pdf

The 30% designs for Segment 5 of the northwest beltline show designs for connection with a silver comet connector trail. Is this a good sign that the silver comet connector is coming soonish? Being car free would love to be able to bike from intown all the way up to the silver comet trail and back without having to rent a vehicle.

[GPBRDL]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

https://beltlineorg.wpenginepowered....g_20221103.pdf

The 30% designs for Segment 5 of the northwest beltline show designs for connection with a silver comet connector trail. Is this a good sign that the silver comet connector is coming soonish? Being car free would love to be able to bike from intown all the way up to the silver comet trail and back without having to rent a vehicle.

Who knows... I too have been eagerly awaiting this connection. I think it was the spring 2021 PATH newsletter that indicated the silver comet would connect to the whetstone creek trail by end of 2022 and funding was already in place. The latest PATH map shows at least a portion as being completed, but I only saw an overgrown rail bed when I went by a few weeks ago...

[smArTaLlone]

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...l?cx_testId=40

New warehouses, self-storage buildings and distribution centers will no longer be welcome within 500 feet of the Atlanta BeltLine.

Atlanta City Council recently approved an ordinance to ban new buildings from being erected for those uses near the multi-use trail. The zoning change corrects a proofreading mistake made during a previous update to the city's code, according to the ordinance. The error allowed Atlanta Botanical Garden to move forward with a controversial plan for a Public Storage facility on Monroe Drive near an entrance to the Eastside Trail.

The ban is part of a push by local leaders and community members to reshape the built environment with pedestrians and cyclists in mind. The city is considering several new regulations related to the BeltLine, such as banning new drive-thrus and gas stations within a half-mile of the multi-use trail. Another proposed change would remove parking minimums near the corridor.

[shivtim]

^ The proposed storage facility on Monroe hasn't been permitted yet, correct? So it is essentially blocked? Or it gets granfathered in somehow? I wonder if this means the botanical garden will pause their expansion plans, or if they'll proceed and the storage facility will relocate elsewhere.

[smArTaLlone]

Originally Posted by shivtim

^ The proposed storage facility on Monroe hasn't been permitted yet, correct? So it is essentially blocked? Or it gets granfathered in somehow? I wonder if this means the botanical garden will pause their expansion plans, or if they'll proceed and the storage facility will relocate elsewhere.

They mentioned that since the plans for the Botanical Garden storage facility have already been filed, it would not be affected by the new ban.

[MarketsWork]

Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

They mentioned that since the plans for the Botanical Garden storage facility have already been filed, it would not be affected by the new ban.

The Constitution prohibits both Congress and the States from passing any "ex post facto" laws, its intent being to protect and preserve lawful actions, commitments and relationships that existed prior to the passage of more restrictive laws.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

They mentioned that since the plans for the Botanical Garden storage facility have already been filed, it would not be affected by the new ban.

If this is true, then the 500’ doesn’t go far enough. Mitigating storage facilities within ~1 block is insufficient, it needs to go further.

[smArTaLlone]

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...Pos=0#cxrecs_s

A few years from now, Atlanta residents will be able to reach Armour Yards, Lindbergh and other parts of Buckhead via the BeltLine.

That's because Atlanta BeltLine Inc. secured $25 million to offset a funding gap for constructing 2.2 miles of trails through northeast Atlanta, the organization said Tuesday. The project involves adding two routes that branch off from the mainline trail.

A westbound route will connect to MARTA's Lindbergh Center rail station, while an eastbound route will connect to PATH400, Peachtree Creek Greenway and Confluence Trail.

ABI, the nonprofit managing the build-out of the BeltLine, expects to start construction on the $70.7 million project in 2025 with a two-year construction period. The latest source of funding will come from a Rebuilding American Infrastructure with Sustainability and Equity (RAISE) grant awarded by U.S. Department of Transportation. ABI said this is the largest federal grant in the BeltLine's history.

[testarossa50]

It will be really interesting to see how the project zig-zags across Marta 3 times, NS 2 times, and CSX 1 time before getting to Lindbergh station. Glad it's not my project to deal with.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by testarossa50

It will be really interesting to see how the project zig-zags across Marta 3 times, NS 2 times, and CSX 1 time before getting to Lindbergh station. Glad it's not my project to deal with.

The northern most sections just follows the existing road & sidewalk on Garson Dr.

[Julien]

Here is Pediment park Beltline pics starting North to South.


Pediment Ave looking north.


Westminster Dr. looking north with Pediment Ave in background


180º Westminster Dr. looking south. This is the Beltline right of way that won't be used now. Using existing Pediment Park trail to right of pic about 30'.


Existing Pediment Park trail looking south with "old" Beltline right of way to left across a creek. Looks like the plan is to upgrade the existing Pediment Park trail.


Point where Beltline turns/exits and moves back on the right of way at Park Dr (bridge/above). This is looking west towards the Pediment Park trail and Beltline would turn right/north on the Pediment Park trail.


180º looking east and Beltline right of way top of steps. Will turn right/south.


Pediment Park parking/Beltline trail looking north with the infamous Monroe Dr crossing behind me.