Northern Ontario developments!

[Dengler Avenue]

Sudbury’s at 175.3K now?! It was only at 128.6K less than a decade ago.
And I thought North Bay was at 54K this whole time.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Sudbury’s at 175.3K now?! It was only at 128.6K less than a decade ago.
And I thought North Bay was at 54K this whole time.

CAs are not municipal boundaries.....

[softee]

By municipal boundaries:

Greater Sudbury: 2021 169,128 2022 171,446
Thunder Bay: 2021 111,149 2022 111,113
Sault Ste Marie: 2021 75,118 2022 75,673
North Bay: 2021 54,472 2022 55,921
Timmins: 2021 42,185 2022 42,304

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1...pid=1710014201

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by softee

By municipal boundaries:

Greater Sudbury: 2021 169,128 2022 171,446
Thunder Bay: 2021 111,149 2022 111,113
Sault Ste Marie: 2021 75,118 2022 75,673
North Bay: 2021 54,472 2022 55,921
Timmins: 2021 42,185 2022 42,304

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1...pid=1710014201

Sounds like most of the growth was for the areas outside the main cities for the CAs.

[softee]

North Bay proper grew by 2.66% in one year, that's the biggest jump its seen in decades!

[Dengler Avenue]

That still leaves 20K outside North Bay proper.
Then again I’ve once heard that the neighbouring township of East Ferris (i.e. Corbeil) saw quite a bit of growth.

It’s similar for T Bay: 14K outside of city limit. I wonder which part contributes the most though: Oliver-Paypoonge, Conmee, Neebing, or Shuniah? (I have a feeling that it’s Shuniah just because the municipality once even considered opening a Costco.)

As for SSM, I wonder how much of that 5K is from places between Heyden and Havilland (beginning of 17 along Lake Superior).

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

It’s similar for T Bay: 14K outside of city limit. I wonder which part contributes the most though: Oliver-Paypoonge, Conmee, Neebing, or Shuniah? (I have a feeling that it’s Shuniah just because the municipality once even considered opening a Costco.)

Oli-poo is the largest by a wide margin. Around 6k.

[swimmer_spe]

.... and now for something different...

https://ofsc.evtrails.com/#

The OFSC Snowmobile trails have a gap of about 300km between Geraldton/Marathon and Thunder Bay.

With climate change causing S ON trails to not be open very long, I wonder what can be done to close the gap. There are some options, including the old CN rail bed to Thunder Bay and Geraldton.

[Dwils01]

Sault’s Legion Branch 25 to build veteran housing project with 107 units.
Will be the 10th tallest building in the city when completed.
The red beacon on top is a replica of the memorial beacon from the old Sault Memorial Gardens.





Source: https://www.sootoday.com/local-news/...photos-4498909

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Dwils01

Sault’s Legion Branch 25 to build veteran housing project with 107 units.
Will be the 10th tallest building in the city when completed.
The red beacon on top is a replica of the memorial beacon from the old Sault Memorial Gardens.





Source: https://www.sootoday.com/local-news/...photos-4498909

That is AWESOME!!!!!

Wish it was done in Sudbury at the Minnow Lake Legion site.

[yotajoe]

Sudbury Developments:

40-unit affordable housing complex on Lorraine Street
https://www.sudbury.com/local-news/t...derway-7214688

Tender Out for new 5 story Pioneer Manor Expansion
https://www.sudbury.com/local-news/t...roject-7064250

Ledo Hotel to be demolished after proposal for 14 story building falls through
https://www.sudbury.com/local-news/g...-hotel-7141733

[yotajoe]

Looks like condos at the old Sudbury hospital is still the plan.

https://www.panoramicproperties.ca/b...ite-in-sudbury

Consisting of three (3) new proposed buildings, the development will include a 20-storey condominium, 16 storey urban loft (rental) building and a 12-storey retirement residence providing a total of 222 condominium units, 199 apartments, and 109 retirement guest suites.

Two of these buildings will be taller than Tom Davis Square and become Sudbury's tallest.

[north 42]

Nice to see Sudbury growing and getting some quality new highrises.

[yotajoe]

Sudbury NIMBY's out in full force.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbu...ural-1.6939589

Seems like the new Mayor understand how bad housing is in the city, looks like he supports the development very much.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by yotajoe

Sudbury NIMBY's out in full force.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbu...ural-1.6939589

Seems like the new Mayor understand how bad housing is in the city, looks like he supports the development very much.

The problem is, location, location, location. This is prime land on waterfront and parkland. To expect it to be lower income style affordable housing is crazy. However, to expect it to be middle income affordable is reasonable.

[ericmacm]

If rent in friggin Sudbury is as high now as that article indicates, they need more of these kinds of projects going as soon as possible.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by ericmacm

If rent in friggin Sudbury is as high now as that article indicates, they need more of these kinds of projects going as soon as possible.

They need more lower cost housing. However, this project cannot be it.

[yotajoe]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

They need more lower cost housing. However, this project cannot be it.

There are actually quite a few of affordable housing projects that are being built around the core and the city approved two 17 story buildings that should start anytime soon.

I completely agree that this is not the location for affordable housing. This is one of the nicest properties in the city and it would give some of the best views in the city. It should be priced as so.

[ericmacm]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

They need more lower cost housing. However, this project cannot be it.

Doesn’t explicitly have to be “affordable housing” per se. The whole reason we are in this crisis in the first place is a grotesque lack of supply combined with increased demand. Today’s mid-range housing is tomorrow’s affordable housing so I see nothing wrong with building more mid-range or even slightly higher-end stock.

[Loco101]

The proposed development caters to the wealthiest 5%. It definitely would be a huge improvement over what is there now. People have the right to be upset at mainly unaffordable housing being built but this proposal is better than nothing happening in my opinion.